• @Maggoty
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    5814 hours ago

    They’re in prison. Forcing them to do anything is wrong. We’ve already taken their freedom. Using them as labor is morally wrong. Especially when you look at the punishments like solitary.

    • @NateNate60
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      36 hours ago

      That was not a rhetorical question. I am asking if that argument is or is not factually correct.

      • @Maggoty
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        248 minutes ago

        They can’t refuse any job short of firefighting. They will be punished for doing so. Reports from former inmates indicate punishments range from solitary to beatings.

        • @NateNate60
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          47 minutes ago

          Let me rephrase: would the proposition, if it had passed, prohibited prisons from requiring prisoners to perform domestic duties within the prison?

          • @Maggoty
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            117 minutes ago

            See that’s still too vague. Cleaning the bathroom is a domestic duty and yet is something a janitor does in this context. I would say that’s probably the dividing line, if it’s something you’d pay someone to do then they would be banned from requiring it.

    • @Jesus_666
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      1712 hours ago

      I’d argue that simple chores can be used to help inmates get used to structured work as part of a reintegration effort. Of course that only makes sense if reintegration is the main goal of the prison system, which isn’t the case in the United States.

      In any way, if inmates were to do labor, they’d have to be subject to labor law including worker protections and minimum wage provisions. That would probably require the United States to abolish slavery first, which isn’t going to happen anytime soon.

      • @[email protected]
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        49 hours ago

        Man…. The disconnect here

        Prisons are almost entirely run by prisoners. There are no “labor laws”

        • @Passerby6497
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          189 hours ago

          Prisons are almost entirely run by prisoners. There are no “labor laws”

          That’s what they’re saying.

          If prisoners are to do manual labor, labor laws should apply, but that would require the USA to abolish slavery.