• @[email protected]
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    71 year ago

    Not just a shortage of people but also of quality. Look at the kinds of people they employ to teach children for instance. Serious problem with unethical ideological shills in that sphere.

      • drdiemz
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        31 year ago

        Political ideologies do not belong in the classroom, for one. I don’t want my children being told how they should view the world. I would like them to draw their own conclusions based on their own experiences

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          51 year ago

          As a teacher I’ll say that political ideologies very much do belong in the classroom. How else can you expect a child to learn how to be a part of society and to care for people beyond their own self-interest?

          Teaching “political ideology” isn’t telling a class of kids, “you should all be socialists,” it’s giving them a foundation upon which they can build their individual morality.

          What is school if not a place to learn from the successes and failures of peoples past?

          • drdiemz
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            11 year ago

            I don’t disagree, but I think some places have taken it too far

            • @halferect
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              21 year ago

              I am curious about these schools that have taken it to far? I would just like examples

            • eeeeeb
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              21 year ago

              what is too far? what places? i hear this point alot, but do you have examples? real schools that are really going “too far” in some specific sense? where are they? what are they teaching?

              • The difference between *teaching about* an ideology and *presenting* an ideology as *true* or *correct* or *better*

                Like, we should teach ideology – all of them. We should teach religion – all of them. Not in the way parochial schools do (as the truth) but holistically, as things that exist.

              • drdiemz
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                11 year ago

                Too far is telling my sisters they should be vegans, too far is promoting body dysmorphia as something that should be celebrated and not treated. I have 3 sisters, none of which escaped the public school system without psychological harm. Two of which battle and were in hospice for anorexia.

                • eeeeeb
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                  21 year ago

                  your public school promoted body dysmorphia?? that’s wild. did the school have a policy about telling kids they were fat or something? i really am having a hard time envisioning an ideological position that’s explicitly in favor of inducing eating disorders in schoolchildren. i’m also just kinda confused at to how veganism plays into this. how does a school tell somebody to be vegan? diet is a pretty personal choice, and tends to involve a lot of effortful change. was there like a program for encouraging vegan diets specifically?

                  what ideological position is this school using? because… i don’t really know what kind of ideology leads to anorexia. anorexia is a complex mental health issue caused by interactions between cultural notions of beauty and health and the psychology of individual humans. the closest ideological cause i can think of is like… sexism, or fatphobia, or patriarchal standards of beauty as imposed by the advertising industry.

        • @[email protected]
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          21 year ago

          Political ideology is pretty vague: anything can be political if people disagree about it. Fuck, many of the biggest political debates lately have boiled down to “is science real?”

    • Milady
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      11 year ago

      Hmm mium yummy dogwhistle in my tummy