But why is it the job of the gay person to talk to the conservative village in “the right way” to justify their existence?
It isn’t, but we’re talking about arguing with idiots. I had some lengthy response prepared but I scraped that - bottom line is, what is your solution in such scenario then? (I mean the village scenario)
My solution is that you need to show people that they have nothing to fear, basically to bring them down to their senses. That’s standard negotiation/diplomacy. It’s unfair but that’s life, in ideal world we wouldn’t need to deal with this. And alternative for me is a tribal war of “us vs. them”, where you spark in people “this person is aggresive against me, this person is thus my enemy!” and then any logic or reason goes out of window.
Yeah I’m in the same boat with lengthy scrapped response. We’re at a point that’s demonstrated there is no solution to arguing with idiots, short of buying media outlets and correcting the narrative globally. People aren’t willing to be persuaded by discussion, even with their own families. It’s a signal-to-noise issue where the noise is all of the media propaganda that overpowers the signal of real world around them.
Being a gay ambassador isn’t going to change any minds when the recipient gets bombarded by hate speech 24/7 on their favorite news outlets. So I think people should just be themselves and society has a responsibility to fix itself.
I know it’s not a good answer, I don’t think anyone has one or there wouldn’t be a global rise in fascism. But it comes off as victim-blaming to put the responsibility on the oppressed, rather than the rest of society to fix it.
It isn’t, but we’re talking about arguing with idiots. I had some lengthy response prepared but I scraped that - bottom line is, what is your solution in such scenario then? (I mean the village scenario)
My solution is that you need to show people that they have nothing to fear, basically to bring them down to their senses. That’s standard negotiation/diplomacy. It’s unfair but that’s life, in ideal world we wouldn’t need to deal with this. And alternative for me is a tribal war of “us vs. them”, where you spark in people “this person is aggresive against me, this person is thus my enemy!” and then any logic or reason goes out of window.
But really, what is your solution?
Yeah I’m in the same boat with lengthy scrapped response. We’re at a point that’s demonstrated there is no solution to arguing with idiots, short of buying media outlets and correcting the narrative globally. People aren’t willing to be persuaded by discussion, even with their own families. It’s a signal-to-noise issue where the noise is all of the media propaganda that overpowers the signal of real world around them.
Being a gay ambassador isn’t going to change any minds when the recipient gets bombarded by hate speech 24/7 on their favorite news outlets. So I think people should just be themselves and society has a responsibility to fix itself.
I know it’s not a good answer, I don’t think anyone has one or there wouldn’t be a global rise in fascism. But it comes off as victim-blaming to put the responsibility on the oppressed, rather than the rest of society to fix it.