He’ll yea let’s call people unwilling to vote for someone who won’t stop the genocide accelerationists! Bad faith holier-than-thou bullshit like this is why so many people hate liberals, and will get absolutely zero support for democrats while turning a lot of people away. I’m saying as a Harris voter, it’s an asshole move to call Muslims and immigrants who refuse to vote for a president who will almost certainly do nothing but bad to them be their people “accelerationists” just bc someone else will do worse
He’ll yea let’s call people unwilling to vote for someone who won’t stop the genocide accelerationists!
People are claiming to be accelerationists, arguing that accelerationism is the answer to fascism, making pro-accelerationism memes. The memes have been in the lemmy.world Political Memes community but the rhetoric can be found in political discussions all over lemmy. I would say it’s commonplace at this point.
Their one issue was pretending to care about the Palestinians. After recent discussions I’ve had today and yesterday, it seems more obvious than ever that accelerationists don’t care about anything but being the most morally pure person in the room.
Have you seriously not seen anything related to that? Having the self-evident political discourse on lemmy pointed out to you is really the straw that broke your back on hating the libs?
it’s an asshole move to call Muslims and immigrants
Are you kidding? It’s mostly white people as far as I can tell. The Palestinians and Muslims I’ve heard from urged people to vote for Harris. Accelerationism seems to require a privileged mindset so a person can turn a blind eye to the actual plight of minorities.
edit: It’s Political Memes community not politics community for the memes.
Show me these people you’re talking who call themselves accelerationists. Because it’s starting to sound suspiciously like that’s just a label you’re applying to people whose praxis you disagree with
Watching everything burn isn’t praxis. Their strategy is to let fascists win, so they aren’t even anti-fascist. It’s self-defeating because it helps no one and gets us further from progressive and socialist goals.
I argue with a lot of people arguing for accelerationism so there is my comment and post history. Alternatively you could go through the Political Memes, politics, News, and World News communities. Political Memes would probably be the easiest to find relevant posts and comments.
The search bar is a helpful tool for this. Individual communities can be selected to be searched. Searching on accelerationism is a good place to start. Once you find some users arguing against or for this rhetoric you can review their comment and post history.
I have been participating in and following along with the political discourse on lemmy. Lots of other people have to. I’m not the only one who has noticed the prevalence of accelerationism rhetoric or the only person arguing against accelertionism.
You’re gonna have to do better than “look through my comments and a bunch of posts on different communities, I argued with a bunch of accelerationists there”. You’ve got a shit ton of comments, many are very long, and I’ve got better shit to do with my time than clicking all your comments and all the comments on all the posts on all those communities and ctrl-f’ing for the word accelerationist. Please link or quote a comment where someone is literally arguing in favor of accelerationism, or if you can’t, just stop baselessly calling people accelerationists
I have looked at a few dozen of your comments, and absolutely none have advocated for making things go to shit in order to make society collapse, or anything remotely close to that, just people arguing against voting democrat, or even just people criticizing democrats. Why are you lying about the accelerationists that are supposedly everywhere?
The US just elected a fascist dictator. Millions of people are now at risk of being deported and millions could be killed by fascist policies. Your argument is unsuccessfully minimizing how badly this election has fucked us. The people arguing against voting Democrat are the accelerationists arguing for a strategy to make society collapse.
Why are you lying about the accelerationists that are supposedly everywhere?
I recommend paying attention. The results of this election could impact us for decades to come and may lead us to some of the worst outcomes of climate change. Accelerationists have fundamentally misunderstood the lessons of history and have demonstrated they do not care about anyone but themselves. Things get better when we learn from our mistakes not when we repeat them. Watching things burn is useless. We have to do the work to make things better. edit: typo
You’re very blatantly just calling people who voted in ways you disagree with accelerationists. You’re intentionally misrepresenting them to portray them as evil because if they don’t Vote Blue No Matter Who they must be evil and want the world to end. Please get your head out of your ass <3
Your argument is what is known as a straw man. No where in my argument do I claim accelerationists are evil. My argument is that accelerationism as a strategy is useless.
Your argument isn’t based on the discussions on Lemmy or anything in the argument you are responding to. If you aren’t going to engage with either of those then there is little point of continuing this discussion.
Every conservative accusation is a confession. This applies to liberals too apparently. How in the heck are you gonna say I’m strawmanning you while literally calling people accelerationists when they don’t claim to be xD fuck off l*beral, from the river to the sea 🇵🇸
He’ll yea let’s call people unwilling to vote for someone who won’t stop the genocide accelerationists! Bad faith holier-than-thou bullshit like this is why so many people hate liberals, and will get absolutely zero support for democrats while turning a lot of people away. I’m saying as a Harris voter, it’s an asshole move to call Muslims and immigrants who refuse to vote for a president who will almost certainly do nothing but bad to them be their people “accelerationists” just bc someone else will do worse
People are claiming to be accelerationists, arguing that accelerationism is the answer to fascism, making pro-accelerationism memes. The memes have been in the lemmy.world Political Memes community but the rhetoric can be found in political discussions all over lemmy. I would say it’s commonplace at this point.
Their one issue was pretending to care about the Palestinians. After recent discussions I’ve had today and yesterday, it seems more obvious than ever that accelerationists don’t care about anything but being the most morally pure person in the room.
Have you seriously not seen anything related to that? Having the self-evident political discourse on lemmy pointed out to you is really the straw that broke your back on hating the libs?
Are you kidding? It’s mostly white people as far as I can tell. The Palestinians and Muslims I’ve heard from urged people to vote for Harris. Accelerationism seems to require a privileged mindset so a person can turn a blind eye to the actual plight of minorities.
edit: It’s Political Memes community not politics community for the memes.
Show me these people you’re talking who call themselves accelerationists. Because it’s starting to sound suspiciously like that’s just a label you’re applying to people whose praxis you disagree with
Watching everything burn isn’t praxis. Their strategy is to let fascists win, so they aren’t even anti-fascist. It’s self-defeating because it helps no one and gets us further from progressive and socialist goals.
I argue with a lot of people arguing for accelerationism so there is my comment and post history. Alternatively you could go through the Political Memes, politics, News, and World News communities. Political Memes would probably be the easiest to find relevant posts and comments.
The search bar is a helpful tool for this. Individual communities can be selected to be searched. Searching on accelerationism is a good place to start. Once you find some users arguing against or for this rhetoric you can review their comment and post history.
I have been participating in and following along with the political discourse on lemmy. Lots of other people have to. I’m not the only one who has noticed the prevalence of accelerationism rhetoric or the only person arguing against accelertionism.
You’re gonna have to do better than “look through my comments and a bunch of posts on different communities, I argued with a bunch of accelerationists there”. You’ve got a shit ton of comments, many are very long, and I’ve got better shit to do with my time than clicking all your comments and all the comments on all the posts on all those communities and ctrl-f’ing for the word accelerationist. Please link or quote a comment where someone is literally arguing in favor of accelerationism, or if you can’t, just stop baselessly calling people accelerationists
I’m not reposting all of lemmy for you here. They are in this comment section even.
I have looked at a few dozen of your comments, and absolutely none have advocated for making things go to shit in order to make society collapse, or anything remotely close to that, just people arguing against voting democrat, or even just people criticizing democrats. Why are you lying about the accelerationists that are supposedly everywhere?
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The US just elected a fascist dictator. Millions of people are now at risk of being deported and millions could be killed by fascist policies. Your argument is unsuccessfully minimizing how badly this election has fucked us. The people arguing against voting Democrat are the accelerationists arguing for a strategy to make society collapse.
I recommend paying attention. The results of this election could impact us for decades to come and may lead us to some of the worst outcomes of climate change. Accelerationists have fundamentally misunderstood the lessons of history and have demonstrated they do not care about anyone but themselves. Things get better when we learn from our mistakes not when we repeat them. Watching things burn is useless. We have to do the work to make things better. edit: typo
You’re very blatantly just calling people who voted in ways you disagree with accelerationists. You’re intentionally misrepresenting them to portray them as evil because if they don’t Vote Blue No Matter Who they must be evil and want the world to end. Please get your head out of your ass <3
Your argument is what is known as a straw man. No where in my argument do I claim accelerationists are evil. My argument is that accelerationism as a strategy is useless.
Your argument isn’t based on the discussions on Lemmy or anything in the argument you are responding to. If you aren’t going to engage with either of those then there is little point of continuing this discussion.
Every conservative accusation is a confession. This applies to liberals too apparently. How in the heck are you gonna say I’m strawmanning you while literally calling people accelerationists when they don’t claim to be xD fuck off l*beral, from the river to the sea 🇵🇸