• @Lost_My_Mind
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    73 months ago

    Well wait…can the NY transit be blamed for that, if it was NYPD?

    That would be like if some guy stole a loaf of bread from a grocery store, so they call the cops, and the cop shoots the theif.

    Do you blame the grocery store?

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      The vast majority of people who steal food from a grocery aren’t doing it out of malicious reasoning but simply for their and their families survival.

      Using a systemic monopoly on violence to stop people from trying to non violently survive in a world that refuses to help them is always immoral.

      We should be calling the cops on supermarket chains for hoarding and not sharing their exes of wealth with citizens who actually need it.

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        ”We should be calling the cops on supermarket chains for hoarding and not sharing their exes of wealth with citizens who actually need it."

        I think the word you were looking for was “excess.” What you wrote seems like an oddly specific kink for divorcees.

          • Final Remix
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            143 months ago

            Homer: You know, Mr. Burns, you’re the richest guy I know. Way richer than Lenny.

            Mr. Burns: Yes, but I’d trade it all for a little more

    • @CarbonatedPastaSauce
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      Don’t worry there’s plenty of blame to go around in this fucked up system we’ve got.

      But I agree with you. No matter what this guy did, these cops engineered an unnecessary confrontation and then shot innocent bystanders, the suspect, AND themselves. They are to blame. They are not qualified to use firearms in the performance of their duties because they lack good judgement.

      • Elvith Ma'for
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        73 months ago

        Wait… they did WHAT?!

        I read the advert and just assumed, the suspect just tried to ran and they needlessly used guns to stop them instead of running after them or something like that?!

        • @CarbonatedPastaSauce
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          183 months ago

          The suspect is not 100% blameless, he did hop the line, he was not following lawful commands, and he was holding a knife. Now that is a really sketchy situation because a knife can kill you real quick, real life is not like Hollywood. But he did not try to stab anyone with it and he was not threatening anyone. Cops love to talk about how a knife can kill you from 20 feet but that ain’t gonna happen when they have already drawn on him. So none of that validates their response. They could have easily backed up temporarily, called for backup, tried the tasers again, waited for him to calm down a bit, or 20 other things than unloading their guns in a crowded subway station. Idiotic. The ONLY reason they should have fired is if the suspect was attempting to harm someone. I hope they are fired and charged with negligence at the very least, attempted manslaughter sounds even better.

          • @[email protected]
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            23 months ago

            unloading their guns in a crowded subway station.

            The sad thing is it wasn’t even crowded. There were like 3 people in the immediate vicinity, not counting suspect and cops- and they managed to hit 2 of them.

        • @TootTootComingThru
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          13 months ago

          Not justifying the cops shooting up everything, but he 100% had a knife and was acting dangerously. They tried using tasers first which didn’t work.

          There are videos. People who are saying that a man was murdered just over couple bucks of fare are purposefully leaving out some crucial details. I get it, but it’s dishonest.

    • @[email protected]
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      33 months ago

      It wasn’t NYPD, it was transit police. Not too uncommon in big cities for the transit system to have their own (real) police force, it solves some problems of jurisdiction when the transit system spans multiple cities and/or counties.