• @finitebanjo
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    -11 month ago

    I think politics play a very large role in life and that ignorance of it gives us outcomes like Trump, but I would like to hear more about what the motivation for the cats is if that’s also on the table.

    • Cris
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      121 month ago

      Wanting to be able to exist in a social space online without 3/4ths of all discussion in that space being bleak political news isn’t the same thing as ignorance.

      I posted about voting, I engage with political discussion, but lemmy is a very politics heavy platform, and while there’s nothing intrinsically wrong with that, you kinda have to manage your fatigue levels. You can only be but so upset, outraged and exhausted before it starts to affect you, and being burnt out and overwhelmed doesn’t yield productive political action

      You gotta take breaks and balance paying attention with stuff that makes life feel worthwhile. If you don’t, eventually you just give up. Cats for a little while is kinda nice :)

      • @[email protected]
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        Also worthwhile noting that not everybody on the English speaking internet is American ¯\_⁠(⁠ツ⁠)⁠_⁠/⁠¯

        It doesn’t matter how much trump is forced down my throat, it doesn’t change shit because I live on the other side of the world. A little bit of awareness and courtesy every once in a while wouldn’t go astray.

        • @[email protected]
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          If you’re only getting your news from lemmy posts you’ve got bigger problems than you think.

    • @Lost_My_Mind
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      41 month ago

      No no. Ignorance is not the same as stupidity. Ignorance is the lack of knowledge. Stupidity is the inability to use knowledge.

      Every single day since 2016 we’ve had trump in our daily conversations. Every single day we’ve heard every stupid thing he’s done. Every tiny little thing he’s ever said. If news outlets had access to his toilet time, they’d play nightly audio of his poops. There is not a single thing about him that hasn’t been said 1000 times. No piece of information about him that isn’t out there.

      And he doesn’t keep himself secret either. He stood onstage and said into a microphone, with cameras rolling, in front of thousands of people, with pride in his voice as he said it, that he would be responsible for the largest mass deportation innititive this country has ever seen. He said if he was elected we wouldn’t have to ever vote again. He said he would use the united states military if needed to “put down” the enemy within.

      These are not the words of a man hiding facism. He put it on full display for over a year, and the votes came back that we as a collective country WANT that.

      The information is out there in public. Reported on ad nauseam on a nightly basis for over a year.

      Trump is not the result of ignorance. Trump is the result of weaponized stupidity.

      • @finitebanjo
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        You have a very cool philosophy and I thank you for sharing, but the definition of ignorance is not the same as unaware. To be ignorant generally implies to ignore the reality or truth.

        American Heritage Dictionary has this to say about it:

        Ignorance:

        • The condition of being uneducated, unaware, or uninformed.

        • The condition of being ignorant; the lack of knowledge in general, or in relation to a particular subject; the state of being uneducated or uninformed.

        • A willful neglect or refusal to acquire knowledge which one may acquire and it is his duty to have.

        I’d normally also include something like Oxford Dictionary definition but for some reason they’ve got a paid subscription model now.

        • @philthi
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          It does list “the condition of being […] unaware” in the definitions you quoted. I think it’s fair to say ignorance can mean being unaware, but ignorance can at times also signify that it is intentional, or that a person is choosing to ignore information.

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            Though saying “ignorance is the lack of knowledge” stands true, regardless of whether that lack of knowledge is intentional or not.