Summary

A new book, Ricardo’s Dream by Nat Dyer, reveals that Sir Isaac Newton’s wealth was closely tied to the transatlantic slave trade during his tenure as master of the mint at the Bank of England.

Newton profited from gold mined by enslaved Africans in Brazil, much of which was converted into British currency under his oversight, earning him a fee for each coin minted.

While Newton’s scientific legacy remains untarnished, the book highlights his financial entanglement with slavery, a common thread among Britain’s banking and finance elites of the era.

  • @MrNesser
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    5611 hours ago

    By our standards he may have been a peice of crap.

    At the time he was born in the society he lived in his wealth gained in a largley accepted manner.

    I see no need to go back over history constantly bringing this shit up.

    • Flying SquidM
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      3910 hours ago

      Nah, by their standards, he was a colossal piece of crap too. He was very much disliked. He was known to be humorless and just kind of a jerk overall. He was also pretty useless a lot of the time. He was elected to parliament and only spoke one time during his tenure there. He said, “the window needs closing.” Really.

      And then when he took over the mint, he was just ruthless in prosecuting anyone he could for any reason he could find. He had a witch hunt for counterfeiters after there was a change in coinage. It was pretty nuts. So yeah, he was always a piece of shit. This just makes him a bigger piece of shit.

      • @[email protected]
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        910 hours ago

        Ok, but I think the point is to judge him by the standards of the time. That might still label him a jerk, and so be it.

        Maybe he was a neuro-diverse individual who saw little value in “people problems” and was only interested in maths and science. Today, we’d show more understanding to that, but we don’t know. All we can say was he was a jerk in the eyes of those around him.

        • Flying SquidM
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          1610 hours ago

          That is not an excuse for his witch hunt. And it was a witch hunt by the standards of the time, although they wouldn’t have called it that obviously. He ruined people’s lives. He literally got people executed. One was certainly guilty of counterfeiting, but he also just made a list of suspects when he was put in charge of the mint and went after them McCarthy style. You cannot argue that drawing up lists of people and having them rounded up on spurious charges based on a list of people you suspected might have been guilty was the norm then because it really wasn’t.

          Also, why should we judge him by the standards of the time? It was essentially “standard” for nobles to rape children who were put into arranged marriages with them because those children were considered property and brood mares all over the place and not just in the Western world. I sure as fuck judge Muhammad for marrying a six-year-old and raping her when she was nine. I don’t care if that was the standard at the time. It’s fucking disgusting.

    • @[email protected]
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      67 hours ago

      Newtons part in the slave trade is no less a part of the life and history of Newton then his contributions to science, why would we omit it? Calling him a piece of shit and saying he contributed to an awful system does not alter the fact that modern math and physics are where they are currently due to his contributions. Conversely, his contributions to science doesn’t alter the fact he contributed to one of the worst systems in human history.

      • @MrNesser
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        37 hours ago

        I’m not denying it I’m simply tired of the inevitable outcome that this brings

        1. Remove the statues
        2. Better not teach his theories in schools
        3. Someone HAS to apologise
        4. What about recompense in the form of money

        It’s a long fucking list and the guys been dead for a couple hundred years.

        • Fish [Indiana]
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          64 hours ago

          Watson and Crick are/were giant pieces of shit. We still teach about them. Many biology teachers will openly state that Watson is a terrible person

        • @[email protected]
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          46 hours ago

          Not excusing the past, OR the present, but people a few centuries from now will call us monsters.

    • Todd Bonzalez
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      -510 hours ago

      I see no need to go back over history constantly bringing this shit up.

      Bringing what up? The truth?

      You might as well say that you don’t see a need to even observe history if you take issue with people discussing the verifiable fact that Newton’s wealth came from slavery.

      If anything, it sounds like you might have a vested interest in downplaying information like this. I would be curious to see where your family’s wealth came from.

      • @AbidanYre
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        1110 hours ago

        Ok, but what do you want anyone to do about it? The guy has been dead for hundreds of years and we can’t just pretend that gravity and calculus don’t exist because he was a dick.

        • @[email protected]
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          109 hours ago

          People don’t just see Issac Newton as an important scientific contributor. They idolize him. Same for people like Thomas Jefferson. Appreciating history means understanding the full range of the people involved. When things like this are downplayed, it gives in to a narrative of history that supports terrible policies today.

          • @AbidanYre
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            13 hours ago

            I suspect most people would be hard pressed to name anything about him other than gravity.

      • @marcos
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        18 hours ago

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      • @MrNesser
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        110 hours ago

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      • @[email protected]
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        110 hours ago

        This is how I see it, if they were someone from history who was rich, I assume it’s because of slavery. It’s easier to count the amount of people who got rich without slavery on your hands.