• Flying Squid
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    -22 months ago

    And you can see why, from what I already wrote, that is not likely to work unless the majority is on your side. And the military.

    • @WraithGear
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      32 months ago

      The military has had a pretty lousy track record against gorilla warfare from much smaller, worse armed groups who, by the width of an ocean were unable to affect logistical lines, the means to project warfare, or the families of our soldiers. A Revolution within would be much worse.

      • Flying Squid
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        -22 months ago

        How many innocent people died in those wars? It’s not very nice of you to be willing to put their lives on the line like that.

        • @WraithGear
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          42 months ago

          Oh? Now it’s a discussion about who should be sacrificed and for what. Freedom always has a cost. I never removed myself from the possibility. But right now, the royal “we”, seem to be sacrificing the minority, the different, the poor, the non christian and it gets worse every day. Freedoms are slipping, corporations get stronger, and standards of living and hope for the future fades. This will only accelerate. Arguing to arm oneself for personal protection but not collective action will doom all, but the chosen, to be picked off one by one.

          • Flying Squid
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            -12 months ago

            So when are you going to start shooting?

            • @WraithGear
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              When it’s needed. I don’t see a path that prevents tyranny or revolution, but that doesn’t mean there is none. You say that people should arm themselves, and i agree, the main difference being what we see as the threat i guess. But I take inspiration from the Black Panthers. I believe they were right and righteous in their actions, no matter what was taught in schools. And you know they were effective, because the state conspired against them and they got the NRA TO ARGUE FOR MORE RESTRICTIVE GUN LAWS because they have a certain power dynamic they want to uphold.

              • Flying Squid
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                -12 months ago

                I don’t remember the Black Panthers starting a guerilla war like what you’re advocating for.

                When is this guerilla war going to be “needed?”

                • @WraithGear
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                  32 months ago

                  I’m not saying a gorilla war is needed. I am saying collective action is needed.

                  The reason i bring up gorilla warfare is because of the “there is no point in fighting tyranny because it’s too hard” argument. in the recent wars verses gorilla warfare and insurgency, it has been an absolute shit show boondoggle for the last 3 wars we have been in. And that is with the advantage of untouchable logistics, the world’s largest, and most secure, military industrial complex, top of the line weapons and training, and the homeland being unreachable.

                  Either way it’s best if those we care about own and become proficient in fire arms.

                  • Flying Squid
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                    02 months ago

                    You’re saying collective action with firearms is needed. Which, as I already showed, is probably doomed to failure.