• @finitebanjo
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    41 month ago

    Luigi wasn’t lower class, tho? You could try to argue his family was middle class but even that’s a stretch, his grandfather donated a million dollars on a single event and Luigi attended both a Private High School where he was Valedictorian and he had a Masters Degree from Ivy League University of Pennsylvania.

    • mosiacmango
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      281 month ago

      You can be rich and still fight against an oligarchy. That’s why it’s class warfare. His actions line up with the poor fighting back against the rich using the same tools they use: murder.

    • @Old_Yharnam
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      221 month ago

      Do you have to be a slave to fight against slavery?

      • @finitebanjo
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        -131 month ago

        To be a Lower Class Hero and Icon you have to be Lower Class, yes.

        Nobody called John Brown the Slave Hero or the living symbol of a Slave fighting oppression.

        People’s perception of Luigi is fantasy fiction.

        • Pandantic [they/them]
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          21 month ago

          Have you ever heard of class solidarity? It’s not us = poor vs them = rich, it’s us = people who have to work vs them = people make money off us working. The fact that this “upper class” dude had to suffer at the hands of the healthcare system should have tipped you off that he’s one of us - the bourgeois don’t have to worry about healthcare.

          • @finitebanjo
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            -31 month ago

            You can praise Luigi for betraying his class but I don’t see any reason to replace the truth with fanfiction.

            • Pandantic [they/them]
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              230 days ago

              So you really think the ruling class have to struggle with healthcare?! The fact that he took such drastic measures because of having the same damn fight with the insurance companies that you and I have to do is proof. And if that shit about his mom is true, then clearly they are not bourgeoisie.

              • @finitebanjo
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                -230 days ago

                No I don’t think Luigi had any problem at all getting his spinal surgeries funded.

                • Pandantic [they/them]
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                  129 days ago

                  Probably because that was before he was 26 and kicked off his parents insurance plan. You’re doing as much speculation as me, we don’t know, so why are you so adamant?

                  • @finitebanjo
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                    -229 days ago

                    Even without insurance he could get it all covered.

    • @[email protected]
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      91 month ago

      There’s no higher, middle or lower class. Those are all lies from the owning class to divide the working class and it seems like they’re working on you.

      • @finitebanjo
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        -21 month ago

        His family owns a lot of real estate.

    • @[email protected]
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      81 month ago

      Worker class is the true unifier. You can be lower, mid, and upper worker class.

      If you have to work to live, you’re working class. If your employer controls a significant portion of your life and time, you’re working class.

      • @finitebanjo
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        1 month ago

        Technically Mangione had a white collar desk job, not unlike Brian Thompson.

        • @[email protected]
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          31 month ago

          Thompson’s net worth was estimated at approximately $42.9 million as of February 16, 2024

          His total compensation in 2022 was reported to be $9.86 million, comprising a base salary of $1 million, stock awards, option awards, and non-equity incentive plans.

          Thompson had “fuck you” money. The guy was at no risk of needing employment. Equating Thompson with the working class is a joke.

          Source: https://en.as.com/latest_news/what-was-brian-thompsons-net-worth-unitedhealthgroup-ceo-killed-in-manhattan-n/

          • @finitebanjo
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            -31 month ago

            And Luigi was carrying around more cash than most people his age have ever had in savings total.

            • @[email protected]
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              31 month ago

              And what good did that do him?

              It’s not about money, its about wealth. You could have all the money in the world but if you have all the debts to pay then it means nothing.

              • @finitebanjo
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                Pretty certain he had all his debts paid off, or at the very least more than enough money and power to do so.

                His parents own tons of real estate and his grandfather was even more loaded. In fact, I bet two semesters of his high school surpassed the cost of all of his out of pocket spinal surgery and care combined.

    • @[email protected]
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      61 month ago

      I guess people from lower class can’t stand for themselves as they are busy surviving. Revolutionnary figures were often from middle class (Lenine, Che…)

      • @finitebanjo
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        -91 month ago

        Mao Zedong, Fidel Castro…

        Oh hey I can think of one poor one, Adolf Hitler.

          • @finitebanjo
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            Just naming successful revolution figures, that’s all.

              • @finitebanjo
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                He wasn’t in charge, tried to overthrow the government the first time but failed, spent 6 years pandering, and then he was the absolute authority for over a decade leading up to his death. The only thing that stopped him was Germany being conquered by the Allies and USSR.

                • @[email protected]
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                  230 days ago

                  That’s why I specified in the long term. In the end, his atrocities became too untenable and he and his regime were dismantled. I’d consider that a failure in the long term.

                  • @finitebanjo
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                    -130 days ago

                    The revolution itself was successful, I made no claims on the system of government that followed it.

    • @[email protected]
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      61 month ago

      He’s a class traitor, to our side. So a working class hero, as in a hero to the working class.

    • @Jumpingspiderman
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      51 month ago

      Neither were most revolutionaries. This is a pattern that has long historical support.

      • @finitebanjo
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        01 month ago

        Sure hope this doesn’t follow any patterns, based on past outcomes.

    • @[email protected]
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      41 month ago

      As I understand it his family owns multiple resorts and real estate and has multiple companies. Not really what I’d call lower class.

      • @nomous
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        91 month ago

        Family money isn’t necessarily his money, Grandpa may be a “pull yourself up by your bootstraps pussy” kind of guy.

        • sunzu2
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          31 month ago

          “pull yourself up by your bootstraps pussy”

          That’s more upper class, I can’t imagine real rich people would their own like that. But who knows.

          I also don’t approve any attacks on his character via this angle. It is important to discuss but the mans work speaks for itself.

          His class is secondary discussion here.

          IMHO