Did the CEO do anything unlawful? If so, let’s talk about it. Otherwise, how can you blame him? He’s performing in a way that is sanctioned by US law. Think it’s horrible? So do I! Until the laws change, you’re going to see more of the same.
OK, so when a new government comes in and sweeps away our current federal laws, then CEOs heads will roll. Since that’s not likely to happen, I don’t see how that’s relevant here.
No, it’s not bait. There are loads of people in the USA without a conscience that will take money, even if it results in innocents dying. By not making this implicitly illegal, our government allows (and some would say condones it). The CEO is simply acting within the legal framework that our government offers. You can say it’s unethical, but it’s not illogical. It’s made possible by our laws being disjoint towards morality and being slanted towards profitability, even at the cost of human lives. It’s disgusting.
He was being sued for insider trading for dumping his stock before an investigation went public and lowered its value. So technically, he probably was a criminal. But this is all very much beside the point.
Sorry, insider trading aside, I meant you cannot blame him for performing his function as CEO. His job is to coordinate more revenue from denying people medical treatments. You cannot blame him for performing that function would be my reasoning. The insider trading is orthogonal to the problems with the medical industry, although one could make an argument that if you offer a job that only sociopaths will take, they are likely to do other sociopathic behaviors while they are in charge, which is a danger to society as a whole.
I don’t know why you think people cannot be blamed for the role they choose to have in society. That’s very weird. And if that’s not the point you’re trying to make I’m not sure what it is.
I was answering the question you asked, which was about whether or not he had committed any crimes. And like I said it’s beside the point, which you seem to agree with.
Their the ones making the laws man. Stop trying so hard to defend them and concern yourself with all the people struggling under his umbrella. If they made murder legal would you start killing people too? Draw a better line.
Their the ones making the laws man. Stop trying so hard to defend them and concern yourself with all the people struggling under his umbrella. If they made murder legal would you start killing people too? Draw a better line.
I’m not defending them. I’m just acknowledging how horrible our current system is and how unlikely it is to change. I have my own moral code and would not be comfortable taking $ as I deny terminally ill cancer patient medication that my company could easily pay for.
By the way, if the government made murder legal, I would not be a killer, but there are plenty of people that would. If we really wanted to solve the health care problem, we’d make for-profit health illegal. Since it’s highly profitable to companies and those same companies spend a lot of money lobbying to keep this legal, you ain’t gonna see this get fixed any time soon. I want to understand the system as well as I can so I may operate within it. That doesn’t mean I agree or sanction what is happening. It’s fucking horrible and as a supposed first-world country we should all be outraged. Two weeks from now that shooter will be out of the headlines and nothing will have changed.
“Terrible ethics aside”
Did the CEO do anything unlawful? If so, let’s talk about it. Otherwise, how can you blame him? He’s performing in a way that is sanctioned by US law. Think it’s horrible? So do I! Until the laws change, you’re going to see more of the same.
https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Nuremberg_trials
Everything they did was legal and yet the US decded that legal was a bullshit excuse in the face of mass murder…here we are, history rhyming.
OK, so when a new government comes in and sweeps away our current federal laws, then CEOs heads will roll. Since that’s not likely to happen, I don’t see how that’s relevant here.
If you are loosing an argument just mention the Nazis.
If the Nazis are relevant in the discussion because they acted the same, sure.
Calling someone Nazi just because it’s not, but this isn’t the case
Very, very easily. Is this bait?
No, it’s not bait. There are loads of people in the USA without a conscience that will take money, even if it results in innocents dying. By not making this implicitly illegal, our government allows (and some would say condones it). The CEO is simply acting within the legal framework that our government offers. You can say it’s unethical, but it’s not illogical. It’s made possible by our laws being disjoint towards morality and being slanted towards profitability, even at the cost of human lives. It’s disgusting.
He was being sued for insider trading for dumping his stock before an investigation went public and lowered its value. So technically, he probably was a criminal. But this is all very much beside the point.
Sorry, insider trading aside, I meant you cannot blame him for performing his function as CEO. His job is to coordinate more revenue from denying people medical treatments. You cannot blame him for performing that function would be my reasoning. The insider trading is orthogonal to the problems with the medical industry, although one could make an argument that if you offer a job that only sociopaths will take, they are likely to do other sociopathic behaviors while they are in charge, which is a danger to society as a whole.
I don’t know why you think people cannot be blamed for the role they choose to have in society. That’s very weird. And if that’s not the point you’re trying to make I’m not sure what it is.
I was answering the question you asked, which was about whether or not he had committed any crimes. And like I said it’s beside the point, which you seem to agree with.
Yes, we can and do blame him. If the law doesnt work, shooting him in the back seemed to resolve the issue.
Their the ones making the laws man. Stop trying so hard to defend them and concern yourself with all the people struggling under his umbrella. If they made murder legal would you start killing people too? Draw a better line.
I’m not defending them. I’m just acknowledging how horrible our current system is and how unlikely it is to change. I have my own moral code and would not be comfortable taking $ as I deny terminally ill cancer patient medication that my company could easily pay for.
By the way, if the government made murder legal, I would not be a killer, but there are plenty of people that would. If we really wanted to solve the health care problem, we’d make for-profit health illegal. Since it’s highly profitable to companies and those same companies spend a lot of money lobbying to keep this legal, you ain’t gonna see this get fixed any time soon. I want to understand the system as well as I can so I may operate within it. That doesn’t mean I agree or sanction what is happening. It’s fucking horrible and as a supposed first-world country we should all be outraged. Two weeks from now that shooter will be out of the headlines and nothing will have changed.