• @PineRune
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    1072 months ago

    “Violence is not the answer” says country that won its place in the world through violence.

      • @[email protected]
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        372 months ago

        The USA would still be a native american land if millions of people had not been wiped out by Europeans

        • @WoodScientist
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          222 months ago

          The Native Americans would have been much better off if they had simply strangled Columbus and all his crew the moment they made landfall…

          • @[email protected]
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            92 months ago

            I get the humor in what you say, but it’s worth noting that the Native American civilizations were collapsing due to disease brought by earlier European visitors by the time Columbus set sail.

            Granted, history probably would’ve been largely the same if Columbus’ expeditions were unsuccessful, given the English, French, Dutch and Spanish appetites for empire building

            • bufalo1973
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              52 months ago

              There’s a saga that is about “what if Columbus arrived to America but never got back to Europe?”. It’s “the tale of the feathered serpent”.

              • @[email protected]
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                42 months ago

                That sounds super neat. When I google it I find these books amongst other more confused seeming results. Is that the right ones or is it something else?

                • slingstone
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                  22 months ago

                  Yeah, I found the same books, and they don’t seem like the right one.

                  • bufalo1973
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                    22 months ago

                    It’s “chronicles”, not “tales”, sorry. By Edgardo Civallero.

          • @Cosmonauticus
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            72 months ago

            You can say that about almost everywhere white explores showed up

    • @[email protected]
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      22 months ago

      The historical record says that if violence isn’t working, you’re just not using enough of it.