With the number of people concerned about privacy, it is a wonder why chrome is even popular.

  • @cartmancarter
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    81 year ago

    Okay I’m going to step into it. I’ve been liking Vivaldi recently as a browser. Is that screwed too because it’s based on chromium? Or am I safe for now?

    • @Mihuy
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      31 year ago

      Well if you’re talking about privacy, then the answer is yes. Vivaldi only collects what pc specs you have or something like that to see how many users day have. Way better than what google chrome does. But I guess yes you are technically supporting the chromium engine monopoly but tbh just use what you like.

    • @[email protected]
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      21 year ago

      Depends what you mean by safe really.

      I have no idea about telemetry. Chromium does have black box code though I think?

      As I understand it ad blockers could potentially become unusable with chromium.

    • @corvett
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      21 year ago

      Vivaldi is my favorite browser as well. It’s fantastic

    • @zerosignal
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      21 year ago

      I’m reading this on Vivaldi right now.

      • @Reliant1087
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        61 year ago

        Because they’re planning to cripple ublock and other adblockers in manifest v3? They also made it so that chromium can’t sync with Google accounts anymore. I love vivaldi too and I hope they are able to survive whatever Google is planning.

      • @[email protected]
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        41 year ago

        More like “becouse monopolies are bad” which is 100% true and no singular group should have this much control over how people interact with the internet

          • @Reliant1087
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            71 year ago

            It is a monopoly. They’ve been doing crap like not adhering to common standards and adding their own stuff on top so that chrome compatible websites might not work in Firefox. That wouldn’t be the case if they weren’t so big so as to force others to follow whatever design choices they make.

              • @Reliant1087
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                41 year ago

                I perfectly understand that chromium is not chrome. Unfortunately the development of modern web browsers is so fast and complicated that it isn’t possible to maintain a fork that is secure by a small organisation. You can do cosmetic things like Vivaldi or brave or whatever but forking the engine itself is a herculean task. See how well palemoon or waterfox are faring.

                  • @Reliant1087
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                    21 year ago

                    Brave has been criticised for their in-browser shady crypto and most recently about sharing user data to be used for training AI, or something along those lines. In contrast ublock or umatrix are completely transparent plugins created by the community that has pretty much become the standard.

                    Vivaldi has adblock built in as well, but I’m not a huge fan of that either.

    • @SevereLow
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      -21 year ago

      Vivaldi (or Mozart… whatever) is a joke regarding privacy. IMHO it’s not as bad as Opera, Chrome, Edge, but still not good enough. For some privacy, you should always use a VPN service + Hardened Firefox / Brave / LibreWolf.