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chirasul posted:
my only advice is to BE CAREFUL posting about holiday traditions around europeans. you’ll post something casual like “anyone else watch the old Grinch movie every year? what a classic” and a european will appear as if summoned and say some shit like “funny how USAmericans always CONVENIENTLY forget that Not Everyone On Earth is from The USA……… no of COURSE we dont watch ‘the grunch’ or whatever the fuck that is…. our tradition is to attend a community showing of Glummdorf the Racial Stereotype”
themainspoon replies with screenshots of several tumblr tags and comments:
riseupriseupandcomealong:
my mom’s (american) class tried doing a language exchange thing w a sister school in spain and they decided to send each other boxes of gifts for christmas. the spanish class made remarks about oh christmas in the usa is so commercialized we have ~real traditions~ here and then my mom opened a box full of blackface dolls and blackface doll ornaments and blackface clothespins in front of her students
raygender:
Did once have a Dutch woman
vehemently defend the Festive Christmas Blackface by repeating "it’s different in Europe” with increasing desperation until she was crying. Literally all anybody else present did was just like, calmly say they were uncomfortable with the practice and not change her mind when she wailed about it.
monkey-mulch:
you bring up rudolph the red nosed reindeer and they bring out Skimbo the filthy redskin and im barely even joking about that they actually had this thing called indian plays in both soviet countries and germany
themainspoon:
European children waiting patiently on Hatemas Eve for Racism Claus to slur down the chimney and segregate all of their presents by colour.
You’re not exactly making progress if the progress is slowly removing a few traditions from being practiced in the open, while losing voters who go to the right wing parties.
That’s what I’m seeing, also here in Norway.
You’re temporarily gaining ground, but with no long term plan. You’re sacrificing women’s rights and gay rights in a suicide run for inoffensive perfection.
The general public is much more open towards LGBTQ+, equality is improving, there are just some extremists fighting to keep racism intact but the general politically right voters are not as much racist and against equality, but more upset about the previous government we had and about the vast amount of refugees which is a giant mess because the previous government basically did nothing to provide sufficient preperstions for it. There is still a lot of progress, even though the government is right wing at the moment. I don’t understand why you say we sacrifice women’s rights and gay rights. That may be so in the US, not over here.
“there are just some extremists”
We lost the biggest fucking election. The US is a democracy, and whether it acts like it or not it’s still true that a majority voted for discrimination, prosecution, and the most convincing antichrist we could’ve gotten. They’ve absolutely lost women’s and gay rights.
You’re deluded if you still can’t accept that you’re not dealing with a minority of extremists. The majority is far less tolerant and accepting than you understand, who takes facades at face value.
You’d start to get back to reality if you just accept the simple fact that you’ve lost people. A LOT of people.
Your political messaging has been completely naive and incompetent.