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chirasul posted:
my only advice is to BE CAREFUL posting about holiday traditions around europeans. you’ll post something casual like “anyone else watch the old Grinch movie every year? what a classic” and a european will appear as if summoned and say some shit like “funny how USAmericans always CONVENIENTLY forget that Not Everyone On Earth is from The USA……… no of COURSE we dont watch ‘the grunch’ or whatever the fuck that is…. our tradition is to attend a community showing of Glummdorf the Racial Stereotype”
themainspoon replies with screenshots of several tumblr tags and comments:
riseupriseupandcomealong:
my mom’s (american) class tried doing a language exchange thing w a sister school in spain and they decided to send each other boxes of gifts for christmas. the spanish class made remarks about oh christmas in the usa is so commercialized we have ~real traditions~ here and then my mom opened a box full of blackface dolls and blackface doll ornaments and blackface clothespins in front of her students
raygender:
Did once have a Dutch woman
vehemently defend the Festive Christmas Blackface by repeating "it’s different in Europe” with increasing desperation until she was crying. Literally all anybody else present did was just like, calmly say they were uncomfortable with the practice and not change her mind when she wailed about it.
monkey-mulch:
you bring up rudolph the red nosed reindeer and they bring out Skimbo the filthy redskin and im barely even joking about that they actually had this thing called indian plays in both soviet countries and germany
themainspoon:
European children waiting patiently on Hatemas Eve for Racism Claus to slur down the chimney and segregate all of their presents by colour.
Yeah, the rise of the right worries me a lot. I hope things will balance out, usually this happens but sometimes it does not and we have a world war or revolution or something like that. But for what I’ve seen, there are some nazis coming out openly as the right gets more support, but that support mainly consists of people who do not agree with the nazis but because they just want change. Those voters hopefully will abandon the right as soon as they find out what they actually voted for, and I’m hoping that won’t be too late.
I know in other countries it’s different, like in far right Poland there’s a lot of hate towards LGBTQ+. I can only say that sentiment is very small here in the Netherlands, luckily.
There always will be haters. I just hope these haters only got a stage for other reasons than their hate for equality.
The state of the right in Dutch politics is almost completely irrelevant on the world stage.
Their higher tolerance for queers is about as reassuring as “Czech Nazi sympathizers didn’t have an issue with Jews, it was the Germans who went in and persecuted the Czech Jews” would’ve been. It doesn’t even matter if anything close to that was the case, it would have made no difference to the broader war and atrocities.
Are you saying Norway is planning to invade the Netherlands? Look, I’m not happy with what’s happening in the world. It’s going downhill really fast. But we’re not on the level as we were during the 30s and 40s so comparing it to invaded Czechoslovakia is wrong. Although there are nazis comfortable enough to come out in public, it doesn’t mean the right is the same as it was almost a decade ago. They are idiots destroying society without understanding the damage they do, but it’s different on so many levels then nazi Germany.
The Netherlands has a lot of influence on the world stage. Politically and economically. The secretary General of the NATO is our previous prime minister (also an idiot) and this tiny country is one of the biggest export countries of agricultural products, as well as one of the biggest trade hubs in the world. I’m definitely not proud of the way this country does business, but it sure has a lot of influence.
Shut up, be serious.
And no, the Dutch being a little tolerant of queers will make no difference. It won’t temper the persecution the right wants to do.