• @lepinkainen
    link
    English
    181 month ago

    GoG Vault would disagree with you on that.

    You can download the full installers and keep them, nobody can take them away or disable it remotely

    • JackbyDev
      link
      fedilink
      English
      41 month ago

      What they mean is that technically you still are being granted a license to use it. The same was true for things like DVD movies. They’re technically correct, but missing the point.

    • @Nibodhika
      link
      English
      21 month ago

      How is that different from backing up the game folder on steam? In both cases it’s true that:

      • You’re not doing anything illegal at the moment you do it
      • You can use it to play the game on a different computer (as long as the game is DRM free which is not granted on either platform)
      • The company (Valve/GOG) can’t remotely erase your copy
      • If the company removes the license from you your backup is now technically illegal but it’s unlikely to be enforced

      I fail to see how GOGs approach is any different, they still sell you a license and you’re backing up the installer in case the license gets removed and/or you’re forbidden from redownloading the game.

      • @lepinkainen
        link
        English
        31 month ago

        So you can just pop that folder on any computer and run it, without installing Steam and without a Steam account?

        • @Nibodhika
          link
          English
          21 month ago

          On most games yes, like I said before I’ve copied games from my computer to others to play in lan to convince friends to buy a game.

          Then there are badly implemented games, where you need to either delete the steam library from the game folder or replace it with an open implementation.

          And the rest are the ones that have DRM (which are not available on GOG anyways so they don’t matter for this discussion).

          • @[email protected]
            link
            fedilink
            English
            21 month ago

            Actually, some games have DRM on steam and have a DRM free version on GOG. I even saw a game that had a DRM free epic and gog edition but the steam version had DRM. Might be a edge case, but still exists

            • @Nibodhika
              link
              English
              11 month ago

              Yes, there are a couple of corner cases, I know of 1. But what I stated is still true as a general rule.

    • @woelkchen
      link
      English
      -201 month ago

      GoG Vault would disagree with you on that.

      They are free to disagree on laws but they are still bound by them.

      You can download the full installers and keep them, nobody can take them away or disable it remotely

      That’s true but if your license is revoked, you’re illegally in possession of the game assets.

      • ZeroOne
        link
        English
        91 month ago

        That’s not how it works but hey, you do you

        • SaltySalamander
          link
          fedilink
          31 month ago

          It 100% is how it works. Read that EULA next time you install one of those games via the installer you downloaded from gog.

          • ZeroOne
            link
            English
            41 month ago

            Yeah & we still get to keep the installers, but hey I seriously do get your point

      • @Hawke
        link
        English
        11 month ago

        It’s less clear than you say.

        In principle the First-sale doctrine should apply but it has not caught up with reality yet.