• @jeffw
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    241 day ago

    The issue is that it’s less severe, partially because people have immunity and partially because the virus is weaker (this happens with new illnesses - they get less fatal and spread more).

    But wastewater isn’t newsworthy. It never has been. It’s disingenuous to say the media isn’t covering this when ERs are NOT having issues and people aren’t dying.

    Many doesn’t the media have mass coverage of the common cold? Why don’t they cover norovirus? Endemic shit that doesn’t kill people isn’t really newsworthy.

    • @insaneinthemembrane
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      912 hours ago

      Less severe at first maybe but plenty of studies showing long term damage from what starts as a mild cold. If reporting was being done on the science, that’s what it would say but reporting is very very limited.

    • @[email protected]
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      2415 hours ago

      Copying from my response where you copied this elsewhere, because it’s good to quash misinformation:

      because the virus is weaker (this happens with new illnesses - they get less fatal and spread more).

      This isn’t true. It’s a debunked theory from the 1800s. Viruses evolve chaotically, sometimes strengthening sometimes weakening. There’s no general rule that they get weaker and COVID’s reduction in lethality is due to other factors.

    • @surph_ninja
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      211 hours ago

      You’re spreading disinformation. This one is not less severe. I know a couple of people who were hospitalized with this strain, and everyone else I know who’s gotten it were knocked on their ass.

            • @surph_ninja
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              It’s a good comment, and points out that the theory it’s become less lethal as it goes on has been debunked.

              Covid numbers going down is due to the government refusing to count, and asking healthcare providers to stop providing Covid information.

              So unfortunately we’re left with anecdotal info, and data from waste treatment facilities.

    • maegul (he/they)
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      1323 hours ago

      Eh, shifts on the stock market and pretty random political moments make the news all the time. Not to mention the weather and sports.

      A little, “hey, contagions are about at the moment, if you’re vulnerable or just not keen, act accordingly” wouldn’t be misplaced at all.

      Bottom line is we have a cultural problem with general illness. Something something capitalism something something.

      • r00ty
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        116 hours ago

        Yeah, there’s an important difference between having covid and having covid with no herd immunity.

        I caught covid during the pandemic, it was around a month after receiving the vaccine. So actually I never even got a fever. I had like a day of cold symptoms, never even showed positive on lateral flow.

        But since my girlfriend did test positive, as per the rules here at the time, I did a proper lab test. That confirmed that yes I had covid at the time or close to when I had the test.

        So at the very height of the immunity provided by the vaccine I still technically caught the virus. Which makes sense.

        So, with the general increase in immunity there can be a lot of covid detected in wastewater, but many or most of those people putting that waste out may only be having cold level symptoms.

        • maegul (he/they)
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          511 hours ago

          The problem with this answer is that you go from your anecdata to a sweeping statement about the relevance of public health information.

          Plenty of people would really prefer to not get covid and for very good reasons. If you’re having basic cold symptoms, great, not everyone finds it that minimal. Just like how some have bad hay fever and some don’t get the news sometimes reports on pollen levels.

          • r00ty
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            011 hours ago

            I’m not really downplaying the virus. Just saying that’s there’s a very big difference between contracting the virus now when most people have acquired various levels of immunity and for most it will be much less of a serious infection than it would be at the start when we had no real immunity to speak of, which caused much longer drawn out infections that were far more likely to result in hospital stays.

        • @insaneinthemembrane
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          512 hours ago

          There are plenty of studies about the long term damage that even a mild infection can have. Vascular damage causing strokes, brain damage causing brain fog and eventually dementia, immune damage causing increases in other illnesses that aren’t fought off like they used to be, etc etc. So cold level symptoms give the impression it’s fine and nothing but that’s just some symptoms of immune response.