The “wait for it to be accepted or declined” part is where most in this thread diverge. Time off is a notification, not a request, no matter what the HR platform or managers call it. Now, you can be a dick about it and not give any lead time for management to prepare for your absence, or not, and that would have obvious consequences.
I’ve always treated it as a notification, not a request, even early in my working career when in retail where you have low-skill power-tripping middle managers that think they can just say no. I was never fired for it, but you can be sure those managers hated me for it, nonetheless. Zero minutes of sleep lost.
That’s also gonna vary between countries - where I live there is a legally mandated mandatory amount of days of vacation per year, but to my understanding the employer decides when you get to use them - you do get a few days of on demand time off, but that’s separate from the bulk of it. So, unless you’re using one of the few on demand days off, it is indeed a request, and the employer can deny them.
The stunt of denying your employees their rightful time off?
Oh, he declared he was using his PTO from the plane and did not wait for it to be accepted or declined.
Like he texted his supervisor the day after a no call no show saying his kids gifted him plane tickets so he won’t be back until Jan, from the tarmac.
So, sort of a different situation.
The “wait for it to be accepted or declined” part is where most in this thread diverge. Time off is a notification, not a request, no matter what the HR platform or managers call it. Now, you can be a dick about it and not give any lead time for management to prepare for your absence, or not, and that would have obvious consequences.
I’ve always treated it as a notification, not a request, even early in my working career when in retail where you have low-skill power-tripping middle managers that think they can just say no. I was never fired for it, but you can be sure those managers hated me for it, nonetheless. Zero minutes of sleep lost.
That’s also gonna vary between countries - where I live there is a legally mandated mandatory amount of days of vacation per year, but to my understanding the employer decides when you get to use them - you do get a few days of on demand time off, but that’s separate from the bulk of it. So, unless you’re using one of the few on demand days off, it is indeed a request, and the employer can deny them.
Yeah, no-call no-show in the absence of an emergency is really pushing it.
Yaaaaah… I hope they don’t terminate him but management sounds PISSED about it.
For his sake, I hope he’s irreplaceable. I wouldn’t even try to pull a stunt like that, and I’ve got a … reputation