I actually haven’t seen that particular argument. It’s not that Linux itself is unreliable. It’s that there’s a harder learning curve for trouble shooting issues when you do have them. Linux has less guides for things because it doesn’t have the market share.
I use Linux (fedora), and it’s mostly just fine. I like it. But if I tried to use it on my work machine running the apps I need in a VM or wine or similar and something went wrong, I wouldn’t have anything to fall back on to help me figure it out.
I will say that a lot of people who use windows could probably just use Linux and everything would be fine. But unreliability isn’t what I’ve been hearing about when people explain why they don’t switch.
Well that’s understandable on their part. If people are too lazy/unable to learn how to fix something they better pay someone to do it for them before they fuck their whole system.
But this is nothing new even for windows, so bit of a weird take in my opinion.
Honestly this probably used to be more true, and maybe still is if you use a weird distro, but if you go for the popular distros most of the time the solution is a few terminal commands that can easily be found by searching.
Unfortunately, yes, running windows apps on wine is sometimes unreliable, not all of them work, some work ok, and some work well. But I mean, you’re trying to trick windows apps into thinking linux is windows, there’s bound to be some hiccups, the fact it’s even possible to the extent it is without a multi billion dollar corporation backing development is already pretty impressive. There may not be any help available if nobody has taken the time to get it working simply because the company isn’t going to tell you how to run their software in wine, microsoft sure as shit wouldn’t help, and the wine devs can’t possibly be expected to know every little bug in possibly niche closed source enterprise software and offer a solution. Basically “you’re trying to do weird shit, and unless someone else has tried that same weird shit and posted a how to, nobody knows, it’s possible you’re the first to even try. Maybe ask on stackoverflow.”
Ime the real issue is that people don’t want to learn a new system even when they’re upset with their current one. Just try to get someone who complains about X or Y on android or apple to switch, it’s not hard to learn the new UI but nobody wants to.
No exceptions to Murphy’s law; however, there’s difference if something don’t work with Linux, on Lenovo hardware, because Lenovo tries a new fancy thing and make it work only on Windows (or a multiplayer game doesn’t work because the anticheat is Windows only) and a Microsoft’s thing don’t working on Microsoft’s Windows because is made by Microsoft and nobody else, but Microsoft, has control to fix it.
Ah, blame shifting. I don’t know why I expected anything else. The same laptop was working fine before the update so this is definitely a Fedora issue. Anyway, the point is that nobody ever said anything about Windows being more reliable, dude just thinks liking an OS over another is a personality.
As a side note, have you checked the process to get a PR accepted into Fedora? Nobody has any chance to fix anything in Fedora any more than they do in Windows.
Now, tell me again how you could never consider Linux because it’s just so unreliable.
I actually haven’t seen that particular argument. It’s not that Linux itself is unreliable. It’s that there’s a harder learning curve for trouble shooting issues when you do have them. Linux has less guides for things because it doesn’t have the market share.
I use Linux (fedora), and it’s mostly just fine. I like it. But if I tried to use it on my work machine running the apps I need in a VM or wine or similar and something went wrong, I wouldn’t have anything to fall back on to help me figure it out.
I will say that a lot of people who use windows could probably just use Linux and everything would be fine. But unreliability isn’t what I’ve been hearing about when people explain why they don’t switch.
Not just less guides but the Linux community is also actively hostile to people who just want to fix their problem and not learn how to fix it.
To be fair so far I had just positive experience when asking about issues here on Lemmy… Don’t know about other places though.
Well that’s understandable on their part. If people are too lazy/unable to learn how to fix something they better pay someone to do it for them before they fuck their whole system.
But this is nothing new even for windows, so bit of a weird take in my opinion.
If anything, I’ve found more guides for doing stuff under Linux than Windows, simply because you can do so many more things.
Honestly this probably used to be more true, and maybe still is if you use a weird distro, but if you go for the popular distros most of the time the solution is a few terminal commands that can easily be found by searching.
Unfortunately, yes, running windows apps on wine is sometimes unreliable, not all of them work, some work ok, and some work well. But I mean, you’re trying to trick windows apps into thinking linux is windows, there’s bound to be some hiccups, the fact it’s even possible to the extent it is without a multi billion dollar corporation backing development is already pretty impressive. There may not be any help available if nobody has taken the time to get it working simply because the company isn’t going to tell you how to run their software in wine, microsoft sure as shit wouldn’t help, and the wine devs can’t possibly be expected to know every little bug in possibly niche closed source enterprise software and offer a solution. Basically “you’re trying to do weird shit, and unless someone else has tried that same weird shit and posted a how to, nobody knows, it’s possible you’re the first to even try. Maybe ask on stackoverflow.”
Ime the real issue is that people don’t want to learn a new system even when they’re upset with their current one. Just try to get someone who complains about X or Y on android or apple to switch, it’s not hard to learn the new UI but nobody wants to.
Agreed.
My Fedora installation turns off the backlight of my laptop unless I have it plugged in. Every OS has issues. Stop trying to make it your personality.
No exceptions to Murphy’s law; however, there’s difference if something don’t work with Linux, on Lenovo hardware, because Lenovo tries a new fancy thing and make it work only on Windows (or a multiplayer game doesn’t work because the anticheat is Windows only) and a Microsoft’s thing don’t working on Microsoft’s Windows because is made by Microsoft and nobody else, but Microsoft, has control to fix it.
Ah, blame shifting. I don’t know why I expected anything else. The same laptop was working fine before the update so this is definitely a Fedora issue. Anyway, the point is that nobody ever said anything about Windows being more reliable, dude just thinks liking an OS over another is a personality.
As a side note, have you checked the process to get a PR accepted into Fedora? Nobody has any chance to fix anything in Fedora any more than they do in Windows.
And at the same time, they’re using Android phones…