• @MumboJumbo
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    4 days ago

    I don’t know how many times I’ve seen “red hat”, “magat”, “trumpist”, etc… as a pejorative. I’m no fan of right wing policy or Trump’s cult of personality, but let’s be honest, leftists and progressives deride their supporters just as much as their leaders. The racist uncle trope and face eating leopard party are perfect examples of a permission structure for infighting instead of fighting the real enemies of the working class. I have fallen victim to this mentality myself, but we have to face our own faults clear eyed and with humility. It’s not both sides, but the whole spectrum of the working class that has been deceived.

    • @[email protected]
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      204 days ago

      It’s the difference between an earned pejorative and an unearned one.

      If you intentionally identify yourself as a member of a cult built on hatred, you deserve how people respond to that.

      That’s not the same thing as hurling insults at people for being gay, trans, black, latino, asian, women, asexual, or whatever other component of people’s identity that they choose to hate next.

    • @Soup
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      214 days ago

      Except that no matter what happens the left will not deny the right their access to universal healthcare. The racist uncle isn’t a trope, it’s reality for far too many people. The face-eating leopards meme is always used to show examples of why supporting fascist governments is a terrible idea for everyone, even those within the governments. They are real things.

      I’m just a cishet white guy, I get to choose to do the right thing and support others. For so many people, though, their very existence is under threat by these hateful morons dragging them through the dirt at any opportunity and I’m not about to tell them they have to be kind to those people. Ten years ago I was saying to at least act with compassion but these days I’m fucking disgusted by conservatives and their easily disproved, hateful nonsense. I’ll still do it, because again I get to choose, but I understand why so many of my friends are fed up.

      The only people trying to deny rights and freedoms are conservatives and, like, five cherry-picked examples of an extreme leftist that the right parades around to justify their hate. If the conservative base stopped trying to shit all over the left today the left would not then jump on the opportunity to punish them, they’d just go “THANK YOU. FUCK.” and finally have the time and support needed to actually make postive differences in everyone’s lives. We know that BECAUSE IT HAPPENS ALL THE FUCKING TIME.

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        22 days ago

        actually make postive differences in everyone’s lives. We know that BECAUSE IT HAPPENS ALL THE FUCKING TIME.

        Fun fact: the first billionaire was Rockefeller. That probably won’t surprise most people. He was THE oil baron after all. He had so much wealth that him and Carnegie tried to donate as much of their wealth to charity before they died. (They got scared by the French revolution and the giant wealth inequality that caused it.).

        Anyway… Even with Rockefeller donating and AFTER there was a progressive movement to break up the monopolies. He was out of the daily operations and just collecting a % of each broken up company. After all their terrible business dealings is when Rockefeller became a billionaire. Not because his business dealings, in spite of them. I’ll say that again. HE GOT RICHER WHEN HE SHARED HIS WEALTH WITH A MIDDLE CLASS.

        So yes, you are spot on.

        • @Soup
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          32 days ago

          I meant something else with that but I see what you saw and you comment is also spot on as well.

          I mostly meant that once asshole conservatives finally just fucking stop being awful the left does not turn around and get revenge on them. Most of the time people are just so fucking tired of the bullshit that a massive criminal simply resigning a post and leaving everyone the fuck alone is enough even when they should, honestly, be prosecuted.

    • Omega
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      104 days ago

      Maybe protecting and enriching the rich, destabilizing the country, and attacking women and minorities SHOULD be criticized.