A backlash against dating culture and apps accelerated with Trump’s re-election, as many opted for self-sufficiency, fostering friendships and protesting against misogyny
I cannot help but wonder where all this is going. It just doesn’t seem like trends like this, at least if they extrapolate out to larger groups could really lead to healthy outcomes.
I see men bitching about women and how they cannot find a woman they trust/build a long-term relationship with. That they risk nearly all of their income by meeting and marrying the wrong person. Men in total despair with the incel thing, committing murder/suicide in some cases. Or going for the MGTOW thing.
I see women declaring they are done with men, they want autonomy, are fed up with misogyny and patriarchy.
I don’t know if these are just the loudest people in the room, the voices getting boosted the most, or what but it does seem there are just a lot of very unhappy people. It’s like our system has worked to create a world of lonely narcissists, even if they are not clinically narcissists to begin with. Men and women both thinking they deserve a partner that gives them what they demand, while not holding up their side.
( Maybe listening to the audiobook for It Came From Something Awful and all the nihilism involved is not helping my current view on things, either)
I don’t know. Some of these people arrive at these positions due to underlying causes that just don’t seem like societal health and happiness in general. Some of them seem to be absolutely miserable. I just cannot help but wonder where all the nihilism and misery leads.
If someone wants to carve out space for themselves and is done with men due to maybe some things in their past - I get it and that’s their prerogative of course. Men making similar decisions, no matter their reasoning, is not necessarily given the same treatment.
Also, I don’t know if those not in relationships are not necessarily procreating. I’m sure there are more than few miserable single moms/single dads that have already had children but are lonely and depressed and have given up on dating. I know people can find someone to be happy with and decide NOT to have children (assuming they are hetero) since I’ve seen it. I don’t think people need to be part of the Quiverful movement to have a healthy marriage, LOL. I do think people don’t need to be having as many kids, and most developed countries seem to follow a trend where the only way they are sustaining their population levels is by immigration…
Thank you for being a reasonable voice against the leftist mainstream “we should all die out for the health of the planet” doomer rethoric I see a lot recently.
I cannot help but wonder where all this is going. It just doesn’t seem like trends like this, at least if they extrapolate out to larger groups could really lead to healthy outcomes.
I see men bitching about women and how they cannot find a woman they trust/build a long-term relationship with. That they risk nearly all of their income by meeting and marrying the wrong person. Men in total despair with the incel thing, committing murder/suicide in some cases. Or going for the MGTOW thing.
I see women declaring they are done with men, they want autonomy, are fed up with misogyny and patriarchy.
I don’t know if these are just the loudest people in the room, the voices getting boosted the most, or what but it does seem there are just a lot of very unhappy people. It’s like our system has worked to create a world of lonely narcissists, even if they are not clinically narcissists to begin with. Men and women both thinking they deserve a partner that gives them what they demand, while not holding up their side.
( Maybe listening to the audiobook for It Came From Something Awful and all the nihilism involved is not helping my current view on things, either)
The State of the world, in a nutshell. At some point you just go ¯\_(ツ)_/¯ and move on. Ait nobody got time for shit.
TBF, their comprehension of the word “celibacy” is only slightly more accurate than any religidiot’s understanding of “abstinence”.
Very reasonable point!
They lead to continued declining birth rate, population decline, and then hopefully eventually a more sustainable world with a lower population.
I don’t know. Some of these people arrive at these positions due to underlying causes that just don’t seem like societal health and happiness in general. Some of them seem to be absolutely miserable. I just cannot help but wonder where all the nihilism and misery leads.
If someone wants to carve out space for themselves and is done with men due to maybe some things in their past - I get it and that’s their prerogative of course. Men making similar decisions, no matter their reasoning, is not necessarily given the same treatment.
Also, I don’t know if those not in relationships are not necessarily procreating. I’m sure there are more than few miserable single moms/single dads that have already had children but are lonely and depressed and have given up on dating. I know people can find someone to be happy with and decide NOT to have children (assuming they are hetero) since I’ve seen it. I don’t think people need to be part of the Quiverful movement to have a healthy marriage, LOL. I do think people don’t need to be having as many kids, and most developed countries seem to follow a trend where the only way they are sustaining their population levels is by immigration…
Thank you for being a reasonable voice against the leftist mainstream “we should all die out for the health of the planet” doomer rethoric I see a lot recently.
You should go watch the beginning of “Idiocracy”.
I saw that movie many years ago. I need to watch it again soon. It’s great!