• @Sanctus
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    307 days ago

    Deneen proposes an “aristopopulism,” in which the virtuous elite provide order and structure to public life in order to ensure the flourishing of the ordinary citizens who cannot provide it for themselves.

    Yawn, literally did this before. They are just Pharisees. Wanna ask these dudes where Rome is now?

    • WatDabney
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      137 days ago

      I think we can take it as a general pribciple that anyone who considers themselves part of a “virtuous elite” and nominally fit to “provide order and structure to public life in order to ensure the flourishing of the ordinary citizens who cannot provide it for themselves” thereby proves that they are in fact neither of those things.

    • @CharlesDarwin
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      25 days ago

      I think things were very much structured like this in 1950s America. And some of the “virtuous elite” may have even taken seriously this supposed role of theirs. Some of them may have had the capacity to have at least some guilt for just being the parasitic and idle rich.

      However, the qons kept agitating and agitating to have lower and lower tax rates for the poor aggrieved extremely rich and so you see a stark rise in CEO compensation, huge wealth inequality spikes and a gigantic crash in union membership and government services…

      • @[email protected]
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        15 days ago

        You’re forgetting about the whole “segregation” period with those rose tinted glasses and ignoring that it was UNIONS that fought and bled for their standard of living, not the oligarchs.

        • @CharlesDarwin
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          14 days ago

          Oh, my comment was not intended to gloss over any problems of the marginalized in the 1950s or to credit the elite with unions; my point is that there may have been some elite that took the concept of being benevolent seriously; the rest worked to dismantle any benefits to the middle class for their own (further) benefit.

    • @captainlezbian
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      15 days ago

      The pharisees were judean not all of Rome. These however are the patricians fighting as Rome fell to Caesar

      • @Sanctus
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        14 days ago

        Where those the “Prominent Jews” who got Pontius Pilate to crucify Jesus? Seems I have been mixing them so I guess its time to crack open the good book again so I know what I’m denying. Anyone know where to get a copy thats not the KJV?

        • @captainlezbian
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          14 days ago

          I believe so. It was a religious movement of the time that was essentially the time’s holy rollers who Jesus routinely told his followers not to act like.

          • @Sanctus
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            14 days ago

            Then I believe I did not mix them up.