Luigi Mangione has drawn lots of defenders on social media. That’s a challenge for platforms when it comes to moderation — and for users.
Luigi Mangione has drawn lots of defenders on social media. That’s a challenge for platforms when it comes to moderation — and for users.
Why does it need to be moderated?
Because you can’t let people realize that they are not alone with their opinions about rich people. That’s the first step to change, and you can’t have that.
We are in a abusive relationship with capitalism. Straight up Stockholm Syndrome with our oppressors.
I guarantee there is a way to have a discussion about the validity of Luigi’s motives without it seeming like a call for more murder in the streets.
We’ve had decades of that already without much change.
We have had decades of what? Just because you suck at doing something, and fail doesn’t mean the answer is murder. The same challenges that you can’t overcome to solve this problem probably exist all over the place so cutting corners here isn’t going to solve everything.
In fact the problem is just going to get harder to solve with the shortcut because these problems have so many resources at their disposal and they’re experts at scheming… and the original problem you say “we’ve had decades of” is still here with us.
Shut up.
We have decades of attempting to alleviate grievances with the system by using the avenues offered by the system and are instead met with hostility by the system we are supposed to be able to affect change through peacefully.
Weve been conditioned to believe the only acceptable option to facilitate progress for civil rights and labor rights causes is peaceful protest while those who dictste what we are taught in schools through the textbooks they publish also militarized our police agencies and granted them impunity to use lethal violence against us.
All while our society glorifies retributive violence when that violence is targeted against those whom the ruling class has deemed a threat to the order they wish to maintain.
We are supposed to have a right to instigate a revolution if our social institutions have failed us and we’ve literally exhausted every other option at this point so its time to use the avenues that the wealthy deem to be good enough to use when they want to progress their agendas. If non violent means were so effective at initiating and maintaining progressive change then those in power would be initiating sit ins and marches instead of insurgency, coup de tats and assassinations.
Brace for high shool history because we have been dealing with this for a lot longer than a few decades.
The usa as a whole has only existed for 2 dozen decades. Decades is a more apropos chronological quantifier than centuries.
Why not both?
Yeah but we kinda need both
Despite what this echo chamber would lead you to believe, you are wrong.
Convincing /s
Funny /s
The word they’re avoiding is “suppress”. It needs to be suppressed because they don’t want anymore CEOs getting what they deserve.
Because if you let it go enough, people will break the law and someone will come knocking on the instance owners door.
Luigi didn’t do anything wrong why would you need to moderate that
Sentences like yours don’t need to be moderated, but calls for violence or solicitacions of a crime are illegal in most countries and need to be moderated, so an instance doesn’t get taken down.
Because it’s typically the glorification of murder, the incitement of murder, or the direct threat of murder, which are all typically illegal in most jurisdictions.
I mean you’re not wrong, but at the same time, fuck Healthcare CEOs. Buncha fucking parasites.
I think the problem is that the population at large has the same problem that you seem to have. You can look at the message that he was trying to send and say, “he has a point” but to be “pro luigi” because he has a point is low IQ.
Luigi isn’t just someone with an idea now also he’s a murderer. Now, being a vigilante murderer is part of Luigi, and to be pro Luigi because of his ideas is to also be pro vigilante murderer. The unibomber had some good points too, you know?
If everyone were to aspire to be more like Luigi you know that would also mean more mass stabbings more mass shootings, more “im over this merraige so I’ll slaughter my partner and the kids” kind of shit. Society will devolve back to before laws and social contracts and it’ll be whoever can kill their opponents before their opponents kill them.
Found the bootlicker.
Two.
https://alexandrite.app/lemmy.world/comment/14297079
I do not understand what you’re trying to show off here.
Another bootlicker.
Ah.
My feelings are hurt and now I’m going to rethink my position, and my life.
You do that.
Thought police much?
And that last paragraph… You’re doing an awful lot of projection based on some guillotine memes and nintendo character photoshops.
Really?
Yes, really. If it’s normal acceptable and cool to walk up to someone in the streets and execute them because you’re angry, society devolves. It is a devolution because we have been here before, it is a societal regression, back to a more primitive order.
Before, one would just rape when they’re horny and murder when they’re angry or bored. If you think I’m being hyperbolic go look at monkeys, or like the rest of the animal kingdom. What’s the number on infanticide, 30% of all animals engage in baby murder for one reason or another, or none. Same with Luigi.
Again, does Luigi make a good point? Sure, but Jordan Peterson makes some good points too, he hasn’t murderered anyone to get the word out. Make your case and make it well and it will last vs being a violent flash in the pan, outlash at a single part of a very large system. It’s short-sighted, and doesn’t solve the problem that Luigi is mad about. It’s childish.
Let’s not make him an idol and order more of that. Let’s condemn it and say, but yes he made some good points and build on that.
That’s not what happened. The dude got shot for being a serial killer, not because some dude was angry.
Luigi wasn’t angry, mad, or upset about the situation?
Allegedly that’s true. But that’s not the core reason.
This is a gross oversimplification.
It really isn’t. If Brian Thompson wasn’t killing people en masse to make a buck, he wouldn’t have gotten shot. Simple as that.
* Allegedly
The rest of this is just horseshit
It’s mob rule, which is why I cannot sympathize with the people with their Luigi memes and shit. If we just run around and murder all he people who rub us the wrong way, then we basically turn into some shithole like we’re seeing in many places in the Middle East or Africa, where warlords rule over everyone else.
I also find this particular topic somewhat stupid when I see alleged Trumpanzees criticizing their far right pundits for calling the Luigi fanboys out. Like, you fuckers voted for someone who’s about the same caliber as that asshole that got murdered, who is supported by even more of the same kind of people. You cannot cry about this type of America, and then keep voting for this type of America (or even worse versions of it). It’s not even just hypocritical but straight up deluded. And then they all cry how voting doesn’t change anything. Stupid. Just stupid.
Here’s the deal, if we want law and order, it must apply to everyone. It does not, and there really isn’t mechanism right now to change that. The issue with the healtcare exec’s killing is that healthcare execs etc. and oligarchs that make decisions that kill people have to be held to account for their crimes, and that’s not happening. Their egregious denials of life-preserving coverage should be a crime if it isn’t already. The Oligarchs/healthcare insurers have rigged the system such that it does not bind them nor hold them responsible for their behaviors that kill people. This is where the lawlessness issue in our system began, not with Luigi’s vigilante act. Luigi committed murder, the health care execs and oligarchs also murder people with their decisions. Only Luigi’s actions are getting legally punished. As long as such unequal treatment in the law exists, it will inevitably end in vigilantism.
You’re not going to achieve that by throwing out the rules, quite the contrary. You’re just giving those people a reason to lobby on harder crackdowns on people, making it even harder to achieve actual change. The problem is that people keep voting against their interests, and not just on a presidential level but even starting on a local level. Hell, if there’s no one worth voting for then you should probably get active in politics yourself before you end up murdering people yourself. Either way, crying about murder and then becoming a murderer yourself is not the solution, but hypocrisy and will invite others doing the same for whoever they think deserve it.