I agree. I used to live in the south and knew I was chubby but had no idea I was fat until I lost weight and moved away (not a coincidence).
We need less coddling of fat people. I know most fat people are aware they are, but if you think your concern level should be a 3 when your doctor thinks it’s an 8, that’s a huge fucking problem.
I know people in their thirties who aren’t concerned that they’re obese and diabetic from their diet decisions which could be reversed if they just realized the severity of their circumstance. They just live in a world where it’s rare to get any feedback about it, and sadly a lot of doctors don’t even say that much to them about it from I can tell.
The idea that there are people advocating against extremely fat people having to pay for two seats on planes is a batshit example of the direction we need to go essentially opposite of.
We literally let kids be traumatized for life by bullies and do not much to stop it, yet somehow full-grown adults are so fragile they supposedly cannot handle any subtle implication that they are fat and need to live healthier…
We literally let kids be traumatized for life by bullies and do not much to stop it, yet somehow full-grown adults are so fragile they supposedly cannot handle any subtle implication that they are fat and need to live healthier…
i think those two things may be more closely related that you think…
you’re right, i should have. i hate when people do that, don’t know why i decided to be cryptic.
if we ignore for a second the role of industry in this whole thing, which is significant, people don’t just “become” sedentary and obese. eating can become a coping mechanism to deal with external trauma, and the way to regulate coping mechanisms is not to add more trauma. getting people to a healthier mental state is a good way to get them to care more about their bodies.
The “bullying” being advocated for here, to me, meant “not coddling anymore”. I’m not advocating for actually bullying anyone. I probably read the comment this way because I’ve known people to use the word in a more lighthearted way, such as “I bullied you into giving me a ride” meaning “I asked you last minute and you felt obligated (sorry)”.
In the context of this floor marking, I thought the idea was to not shy fully away from ever mentioning the topic. I am certainly not advocating for actual bullying. What I was getting at was that children develop hangups for life due to school bullies and practically no one cares. My teachers and bus drivers did little to stop me from getting bullied. That feels weird coming from the same society that is now so afraid an adult might feel fat sometimes, that they rarely talk about it. I know that some fat people get a ton of flak over a lifetime and that’s shitty, but I don’t think this floor signage is even close to that flak.
as mentioned elsewhere, i think this floor thing may be from a different sort of world than the one you grew up in. it would certainly explain the wide difference in opinions in the comments.
Sorry to come back around, I agree with this. One thing I didn’t say in our earlier conversation was that this is presented as Korean, which may have a different cultural interpretation for Korean readers (and us) - I don’t know.
If it helps contextualize my opinion from earlier, I’m Canadian and may have a similar cultural understanding to TrickDacy (though I won’t drag them into my opinion either lol).
Either way, enjoyed reading your (plural) conversation!
I agree. I used to live in the south and knew I was chubby but had no idea I was fat until I lost weight and moved away (not a coincidence).
We need less coddling of fat people. I know most fat people are aware they are, but if you think your concern level should be a 3 when your doctor thinks it’s an 8, that’s a huge fucking problem.
I know people in their thirties who aren’t concerned that they’re obese and diabetic from their diet decisions which could be reversed if they just realized the severity of their circumstance. They just live in a world where it’s rare to get any feedback about it, and sadly a lot of doctors don’t even say that much to them about it from I can tell.
The idea that there are people advocating against extremely fat people having to pay for two seats on planes is a batshit example of the direction we need to go essentially opposite of.
We literally let kids be traumatized for life by bullies and do not much to stop it, yet somehow full-grown adults are so fragile they supposedly cannot handle any subtle implication that they are fat and need to live healthier…
i think those two things may be more closely related that you think…
Why not say what you mean? I’m guessing your point is that bullying makes people more fragile but that’s just a guess.
you’re right, i should have. i hate when people do that, don’t know why i decided to be cryptic.
if we ignore for a second the role of industry in this whole thing, which is significant, people don’t just “become” sedentary and obese. eating can become a coping mechanism to deal with external trauma, and the way to regulate coping mechanisms is not to add more trauma. getting people to a healthier mental state is a good way to get them to care more about their bodies.
The “bullying” being advocated for here, to me, meant “not coddling anymore”. I’m not advocating for actually bullying anyone. I probably read the comment this way because I’ve known people to use the word in a more lighthearted way, such as “I bullied you into giving me a ride” meaning “I asked you last minute and you felt obligated (sorry)”.
In the context of this floor marking, I thought the idea was to not shy fully away from ever mentioning the topic. I am certainly not advocating for actual bullying. What I was getting at was that children develop hangups for life due to school bullies and practically no one cares. My teachers and bus drivers did little to stop me from getting bullied. That feels weird coming from the same society that is now so afraid an adult might feel fat sometimes, that they rarely talk about it. I know that some fat people get a ton of flak over a lifetime and that’s shitty, but I don’t think this floor signage is even close to that flak.
as mentioned elsewhere, i think this floor thing may be from a different sort of world than the one you grew up in. it would certainly explain the wide difference in opinions in the comments.
Sorry to come back around, I agree with this. One thing I didn’t say in our earlier conversation was that this is presented as Korean, which may have a different cultural interpretation for Korean readers (and us) - I don’t know.
If it helps contextualize my opinion from earlier, I’m Canadian and may have a similar cultural understanding to TrickDacy (though I won’t drag them into my opinion either lol).
Either way, enjoyed reading your (plural) conversation!