• @batmaniam
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    116 days ago

    lmfao, YES. I can’t tell if you’re being intentionally myopic. For the first time in a long time we know how this is going to go. There has never been a more clear A:B case in this field. This wasn’t 2016. Dead bodies in congress and I don’t remember worrying about if my friends who are serving were going to call me from godamn greenland before Nov. Buckle up. You won. Reap the rewards.

    • @masquenox
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      016 days ago

      lmfao, YES

      I just love baseless confidence.

      Let’s be hearing them, then.

      You won.

      Lol!

      • @batmaniam
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        016 days ago

        "You won.

        Lol!"

        Everyone who didn’t vote got what they asked for. There were two options. If someone thinks there’s better days ahead so be it, but what’s coming up is part of that same decision. There is no one else to blame. If the pain is worth the long term benefit, then fine, but it was an active and informed choice. The bodies that result were deemed acceptable in service of a better 2028.

        • NSRXN
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          116 days ago

          Everyone who didn’t vote got what they asked for

          the only thing they clearly wanted was no winner

          • @batmaniam
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            -116 days ago

            That was not an option on the table. Again, if you think it’ll lead to a better tomorrow so be it, but acknowledge the bodies paving the road.

            • NSRXN
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              116 days ago

              voting makes them responsible for the bodies.

              • @batmaniam
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                016 days ago

                Yeah… so does not… that’s the whole damn trolley problem thing… there were clear and defined outcomes for not pulling the switch. May have been justifiable, not even debating that, but you still own the choice.

                • NSRXN
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                  216 days ago

                  the whole damn trolley problem thing

                  doesn’t have an answer. it’s a thought experiment to expose your personal ethics. deontologists never touch the switch.

                  • @batmaniam
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                    016 days ago

                    deontologists still get splattered, even if it’s the correct choice.

                • NSRXN
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                  116 days ago

                  you can’t be responsible for something you didn’t cause. that’s not how responsibility works.

                  • @batmaniam
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                    016 days ago

                    There are differing opinions on that depending on which philosopher is at the switch. What doesn’t change is they all have to watch the carnage.

        • @masquenox
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          116 days ago

          There were two options.

          Do tell… how does the meaning of the term democracy turn into an enforced choice between a mere “two options” inside your head? “Two options” that, let us not forget, share more similarities than differences and are inevitably designed to benefit the powerful elites that CURATED these choices FOR you?