• @aesthelete
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    11 month ago

    Mathematics isn’t an empirical science.

    And you’re trying to prove that mathematics works the same way as physics weirdly with regards to proof? It doesn’t. You do proofs in precalculus and none of them involve dropping cannonballs and feathers from the ceiling.

    But again, we’re not talking about an environment where formal proofs are necessary. This is social media, we’re a link under cat photos.

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        11 month ago

        And my point is that you don’t need data and rigor for every single discussion.

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          11 month ago

          For something so sensitive, I like to have it. I won’t accept any broad generalization unless backed by a reputable study.

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            1 month ago

            You’re kinda sensitive about everything. You want a 300-page thesis before acknowledging that 1+1=2.

            Which it’s kinda funny, this whole thing has been an aside but like…you said you tried to read it and didn’t really understand it. Is that really what you need to have a casual conversation about something? A proof, study, or document too long or complicated for you to be able to prove it’s wrong?

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              I don’t want it, I said that it exists and it was needed because science it’s an exact thing that requires proofs, experiments and data. What I want is any data that shows that Zionism causes a rise in Antisemitism, because I haven’t seen any change. I only got “trust me bro” so far.

              I also use electricity without knowing how a nuclear reactor works, if you want to criticize that.

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                I’m not quite sure that belief in zionism is measurable, but I’m sure you can find a source about antisemitism and zionist actions by Israel.

                Anecdotally, I haven’t seen as many “stop the hate” campaigns that are basically about antisemitism as I have since the major military actions started in the Gaza in my lifetime.

                I’d look it up if I really cared anything about the outcome of the discussion but it really doesn’t interest me that much to be honest.

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                  21 month ago

                  Fair enough. I did look for sources (one Google search to be precise) and haven’t found anything, so what we have is a bunch of anecdotal data that hardly serves as basis for any wide-reaching conclusions.