• Melllvar
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      -1616 hours ago

      It’s not involuntary, though. They have to apply for the program, and can stop if they want.

      • @[email protected]
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        19 minutes ago

        I’d like to introduce you to the concept of being “volun-told.” Basically, it’s “volunteer, or be forced. Your choice.”

      • @[email protected]
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        2516 hours ago

        Unless no one volunteers. Then they’re forced to do it upon threat of torture and further loss of rights, and usually more prison time added.

        There is nothing voluntary about labor coerced.

      • @PunnyName
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        1516 hours ago

        Just like you can quit your job any time you want?

        Damn the consequences or any repercussions. Because there’s always the freedom of being destitute.

        • Melllvar
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          -1216 hours ago

          Well, yes, just like me and my job, they can quit. What part of that suggests slavery?

          • CrimeDad
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            2216 hours ago

            They’re incarcerated while I presume you are not. Apart from all the involuntary aspects of prison life, inmates are not allowed to negotiate individually or organize for better pay and conditions. They cannot choose a different employer. The freedom to choose to go to the fire camp or stay within the prison under conditions designed to coerce them to work isn’t really freedom. They’re slaves.

      • queermunist she/her
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        916 hours ago

        Do you think there aren’t consequences for prisoners that refuse this “voluntary” service?