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I hope it’s okay for me to crosspost here.

    • fxomtOPEnglish
      9•1 day ago

      I haven’t heard of people screaming about pies in someone’s face, so I think it’s safe to assume PIE means proto-indo-european :)

      • LvxferreEnglish
        12•1 day ago

        There’s a bunch of guesses on how *h₁ *h₂ and *h₃ were pronounced in this Wikipedia page. They’re usually defined by their effect in child languages though, so it’s possible that some of those were actually multiple sounds.

        For *h₃ you’ll often see values like [ɣʷ] or [ʁʷ]; a labialised consonant (to explain why it often turns nearby vowels into [o] ) and voiced (as there are some claims that it voices nearby consonants, mostly Cowgill’s Law)

        My personal guess for *h₃ is completely heterodox, [ɸ]~[β]. I think that it’s directly associated with *b being so uncommon in PIE.

        • @[email protected]English
          2•8 hours ago
          1. Happy Lemmiversary
          2. I wish we could follow individual users because I could listen to you talk about PIE aitches for the next couple thousand years
          • LvxferreEnglish
            2•7 hours ago

            Thank you! Sadly, I don’t talk too much about PIE in Lemmy because… well, it’s kind of a niche subject that most users don’t care too much about.

            Feel free to ask for further info on stuff, though. I do enjoy talking about it!

      • fxomtOPEnglish
        6•1 day ago

        They’re called Laryngeals, and no one really knows how to pronounce them, from what I can tell.

        Edit, there are two theories on how to pronounce them:

        Rasmussen chose a consonantal realization for *h₃ as a voiced labialized velar fricative [ɣʷ], with a syllabic allophone [ɵ], i.e. a close-mid central rounded vowel. Kümmel instead suggests [ʁ].