• @finitebanjo
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    114 days ago

    “Whataboutism” is when you dismiss any bad of any one thing because there are other examples of bad things. In fact, you trying to deflect your bias as my bias is actually also whataboutism.

    If you don’t have any logical excuse for the bad thing, then you should stop standing up for the bad thing.

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      14 days ago

      Sure, but here it’s pretty much about the trade war between the two.

      Neither side is just, and so seeing it as “China bad” is not a neutral outlook.

      In the US-centric environment, standing up for neutrality is easy to confuse with standing up for China.

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        114 days ago

        I wouldnt want to take a neutral stance here, if the USA is a 53 then China is a 87 on the badometer.

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          114 days ago

          Here, opinions may vary, but that’s outside the scope.

          If you want my personal opinions, I would reverse the numbers. China is spreading authoritarian power and commits human rights violations primarily within its own confines and in some nearby regions like South China Sea, USA does it globally. Both are not great, though, and commonly I try to treat them with the same measuring stick.

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            114 days ago

            The last time the USA claimed territory was at the end of WWII.

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              The last time it militarily intervened in claiming foreign land for an allied country despite the objection of nearly the entire world is right now.

              That’s not to mention an enormous amount of coups and military interventions throughout the last decades. US has sewn more chaos globally than any other country in the history of the world - all in its own interest, of course.

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                113 days ago

                Are you referring to Ukraine? Because you would be wrong.

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                    Israel was actually a United Kingdom territory before becoming its own independent nation and NATO member.

                    NATO is a mutual self defense pact that forces its members to cooperate if one of them is attacked, which Israel unfortunately was before it began its genocide.