• Random_Character_A
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    51 month ago

    Actually fits them both and that’s not the only similarity.

    • BlackLaZoR
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      Socialism, communism, fascism, nazism - it’s all the same shit, the only difference is just the idological mumbo-jumbo on the surface level

        • BlackLaZoR
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          11 month ago

          Yeah, my parents and grandparents lived through socialism in Poland. Heard enough from them to not have any delusions about it.

          • Random_Character_A
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            21 month ago

            How americanized of you.

            You seem to confuse free education and healthcare, government control of essential resources (water, electricity) and government taking case of the poor and disabled to some authoritarian communist shitshow behind the iron curtain.

            • BlackLaZoR
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              01 month ago

              You seem to confuse free education and healthcare, government control of essential resources (water, electricity) and government taking case of the poor and disabled to some authoritarian communist shitshow behind the iron curtain.

              You’re mistaking socialism for welfare state. Socialism IS the authoritarian shitshow behind iron curtain

              • Random_Character_A
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                21 month ago

                If that’s so, why do political left wing parties name themselves according to authoritarian shitshow behind iron curtain.

                • BlackLaZoR
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                  01 month ago

                  Because it appeals to misguided people who have no idea what shit show it was.

                  Seriously, in Polish Sejm there’s currently no party with “Socialism” in the name. That brand doesn’t sell here

                  In reality the model you described earlier runs in majority of European countries - state run health care + state run or at least state controlled critical infrastructure + some welfare for poor - all of this financed by taxes collected from capitalist economy.

                  By all possible definitions it’s a welfare state

                  Most of civilized world outside of US works like that.

                  • Random_Character_A
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                    21 month ago

                    Well, woudn’t be the first time words get new meaning due to events in history.

                    In nordic countries using taxation to limit gap between rich and poor, keeping government control of vital resources, free government sponsored healthcare, handing social welfare to poor and disabled, etc. is considered socialism.

                    Right wing politics is the opposite. They want to privatise everything, leave the poor and the disabled to charity organisations that work on donations from people who care, don’t think the rich should be taxed for being rich. Basically minimising government ownership and control of societys money flow to establish truly free market.