Wrong, you create a viable third choice through effective, bold, and charismatic leadership and an incredibly strong marketing campaign. Our third parties seem happy to pull the outliers and disillusioned voting population, but you won’t win an election with that.
The only way we’re getting an actual third choice is by making something that’s equal to or bigger in presence to our primary parties in terms of media representation and spectacle. None of the ones that exist today are pulling that off any time soon.
Third parties fuck off for 3.5 years, show up for the general asking why nobody takes them seriously, whine through the election, and disappear again. Over and over and over. It’s pitiful.
Run for local office if you’re serious, third parties. At least the libertarian party actually goes for them, that’s literally the only good thing I can say about them: they’re the only third party that puts in work all year every year.
This talking point again. What are you accusing them of doing or not doing - specifically? What should political parties do in between elections? What are they doing that you have researched? What are you claiming that they haven’t done? What does “asking why nobody takes them seriously” mean? Who asked this, and when? What does it mean to “whine through the election” - pointing out how the two main parties are a genocidal machine? Is that “whining”? Is that accurate, insightful political critique? I would frame it as the latter. Why are are you framing it as the former? What is your axe to grind here? Why are you speaking with such bias?
For reference:
GPUS publishes a semi-annual list of Greens in elected office[1] and an annual list of Green elections & winners by year[2] and by state.[3]
As of the November 7, 2023 elections, at least 142 Greens hold elected office.[4] In these elections, Greens won 42 out of 81 local races for county, municipal, education and special districts.[5] Since 1986, at least 1439 Greens have won election.[6]
Any insight into how lobbies actually fight to exclude politicians that upset corrupt political norms? Look what happened to Cori Bush this past election. That’s a Democrat and they still abandoned her. How does the Green Party fight against that kind of influence. Clearly that needs actual grassroots, popular support. Have you offered any? How much time in your life have you actually dedicated to exposing these kinds of machinations and doing things like canvassing for politicians? Zero? You just sit on social media and talk trash about the only people trying to accomplish something?
Our third parties seem happy to pull the outliers and disillusioned voting population, but you won’t win an election with that.
What was Trump’s campaign again? The entire population is disillusioned. They’re just also brainwashed into blaming the other party in a fake partisan system instead of the oppressive system itself.
Wrong, you create a viable third choice through effective, bold, and charismatic leadership and an incredibly strong marketing campaign. Our third parties seem happy to pull the outliers and disillusioned voting population, but you won’t win an election with that.
The only way we’re getting an actual third choice is by making something that’s equal to or bigger in presence to our primary parties in terms of media representation and spectacle. None of the ones that exist today are pulling that off any time soon.
Third parties fuck off for 3.5 years, show up for the general asking why nobody takes them seriously, whine through the election, and disappear again. Over and over and over. It’s pitiful.
Run for local office if you’re serious, third parties. At least the libertarian party actually goes for them, that’s literally the only good thing I can say about them: they’re the only third party that puts in work all year every year.
This talking point again. What are you accusing them of doing or not doing - specifically? What should political parties do in between elections? What are they doing that you have researched? What are you claiming that they haven’t done? What does “asking why nobody takes them seriously” mean? Who asked this, and when? What does it mean to “whine through the election” - pointing out how the two main parties are a genocidal machine? Is that “whining”? Is that accurate, insightful political critique? I would frame it as the latter. Why are are you framing it as the former? What is your axe to grind here? Why are you speaking with such bias?
For reference:
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_Green_politicians_who_have_held_office_in_the_United_States
Have you ever visited this page?
Any insight into how lobbies actually fight to exclude politicians that upset corrupt political norms? Look what happened to Cori Bush this past election. That’s a Democrat and they still abandoned her. How does the Green Party fight against that kind of influence. Clearly that needs actual grassroots, popular support. Have you offered any? How much time in your life have you actually dedicated to exposing these kinds of machinations and doing things like canvassing for politicians? Zero? You just sit on social media and talk trash about the only people trying to accomplish something?
“I don’t hear about them therefore they don’t exist”
Kanamens ‘what you see is all there is’ principal in full effect on that person.
When the Green Party ditches Jill Stein they can re-enter the conversation. Do I really need to explain myself here?
I will concede I forget they actually hold some seats.
What was Trump’s campaign again? The entire population is disillusioned. They’re just also brainwashed into blaming the other party in a fake partisan system instead of the oppressive system itself.