Americans are joining the Chinese social media app en masse to protest an imminent TikTok ban.

  • American users have flocked to Chinese social media platform Xiaohongshu in defiance of security warnings.
  • Chinese and American users have engaged in surprisingly friendly conversations about each other’s lives.
  • The influx of American users could burden Xiaohongshu’s censorship mechanism, experts say.
  • @[email protected]
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    1611 hours ago

    With all due respect, this comment is exactly what a faked “Grass roots marketing campaign” would write. But your account has an extensive post history, so thats a lot more effort than a typical astro turf account.

    Also, inflating subscriber numbers and view counts wouldn’t be out of the question either, remember Facebook video…

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      I just talk like that. Is it so hard to believe that there are plenty of Americans who would flock to a genuinely chinese owned social media out of spite or just bc it is funny? I haven’t even seen an ad on the site so I don’t think they are making enough money to astroturf nor can I find a reason why they’d want to.

      • @[email protected]
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        710 hours ago

        Id question the intelligence of anyone who used any app specifically because of a country associated with it when it’s not an app about countries. Going to Chinese apps just because TikTok gets banned is kinda silly imo, but then again I don’t use state-sponsored social media like TikTok or instagram etc

      • @[email protected]
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        08 hours ago

        I dont mean that your tone is bot like or anything, just that they would want authentic voices.

        I do find it hard to beleive, because look at the reddit and twitter transitions. They either took years (bluesky is only barely starting to gain notability, and I’m not convinced that isn’t also doing astroturfing) or never happened (Lemmy userbase is a rounding error). Getting people to switch social media is very difficult. And tiktok isnt even banned yet.

        Also, just because there are no ads, doesn’t mean that no one is propping up the business. Someone is paying to keep the servers running and lights on, and an astro turfing campaign isnt that expensive. Social media companies either grow or die.

        So if your liking this new site, power to you, but I suggest you enjoy it while it lasts, because its going to have to become profitable somehow, and that is never good for the users.

        • @[email protected]
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          56 hours ago

          Remember that twiiter was not up against a deadline. There was no reason to move to move quickly.

          We just had a supreme Court hearing on tiktok yesterday and it didn’t look good for tiktok. That’s why this is more sudden.

          Why RedNote instead of loops.video or something? I’m not sure how the influencers decided to go there. Maybe that’s your conspiracy. Or maybe one person thought of migrating to another Chinese app as protest and other people copied them

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            24 hours ago

            My conspiracy, if you want to call it that, is that I dont think article is the product of actual journalism. I think Xiaohongshu has paid for that article to be written, to give the impression that the influencers are moving to it, and its the next tiktok. One of the listed authors has never published anything else, and the site isnt exactly a mainstream news site.

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              It seems entirely plausible to me that someone that uses tiktok a lot saw enough folks talking about it that they thought it would be an interesting story.

              Further I feel like:

              “I just wanted something that could replace TikTok, and also it was sort of an act of protest against our government,” the Texan said.

              Xiaohongshu did not respond to Rest of World’s request for comment, including on the latest count of overseas users.

              Although Xiaohongshu is widely used by overseas Chinese people, the platform has made limited efforts to attract a broader international user base. Even Xiaohongshu’s logo is designed with the Chinese characters of its name. It offers no in-app translation for user posts or comments, and only suggests Chinese-language keywords in its search bar.

              But the sudden increase in American users likely poses new challenges for Xiaohongshu, as the platform tries to balance global business expansion with pressure to enforce China’s censorship laws.

              are not really the sorts of claims that would exist in an astroturf campaign. I mean maaayybe they wanted it to appear more authentic, so they invited the writer to be more critical and portray the app in a revolutionary light that is pretty counter to it’s culture, but I think it’s far more likely to be genuine.

              • @[email protected]
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                12 hours ago

                Definitely valid points, and I might be wrong. It definitely isnt a super glowing article, but “flocking to” part of the headline struck me as a bit hyperbolic, which is probably the root of my skepticism.

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          Also, just because there are no ads, doesn’t mean that no one is propping up the business.

          There is a shopping tab, and ads are allowed as long as it’s declared I think. Undeclared sponsored content gets bans.

          • @[email protected]
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            12 hours ago

            My phone failed whenever I tried to buy something (just testing to see what it would do), and I haven’t seen anything that stood out as an obvious ad.

    • @[email protected]
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      510 hours ago

      My roommate mentioned it a few days ago, and I found out this evening that her and her girlfriend are both using it. While it may have started off as an astroturf, it’s legit now.

    • @[email protected]
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      311 hours ago

      Just check it out, the volume of engagement is massive enough the FYP page can get very specific and very recent.

      There’s even a few Australians like “Yeah, they’re not gonna ban the app, but here’s a kangaroo”