In an unexpected mask off “secure” email and VPN provider Proton took the stance of siding with the fascist MAGA Reps. Proton’s services are no option for me and many others any longer. Let’s collect and discuss alternatives (E2E encrypted email and VPN) here 🔐👇

Always try to provide:

-Server location (jurisdiction)

-Governance

-Integrity/trustworthiness/transparency

-User experience/ease of use (grade 1 to 10, lets take Proton as a benchmark with an 8)

-Pricing and links

If you know alternative setups, feel free to share, too.

#ProtonExodus

Background: https://lemmy.ca/comment/13913116

Edit:typo

  • @CatsGoMOWEnglish
    86•4 hours ago

    I largely agree with what you’re saying, except the official Proton Mastadon account doubled down on that personal opinion. That seems pretty clear that it’s endorsed not just by that one individual on the board.

      • @[email protected]English
        12•3 hours ago

        Archives in case they delete it:

        https://web.archive.org/web/20250115165213/https://mastodon.social/@protonprivacy/113833073219145503

        https://archive.is/lBQd8

        Text copy of their post:

        Corporate capture of Dems is real. In 2022, we campaigned extensively in the US for anti-trust legislation.

        Two bills were ready, with bipartisan support. Chuck Schumer (who coincidently has two daughters working as big tech lobbyists) refused to bring the bills for a vote.

        At a 2024 event covering antitrust remedies, out of all the invited senators, just a single one showed up - JD Vance.

        By working on the front lines of many policy issues, we have seen the shift between Dems and Republicans over the past decade first hand.

        Dems had a choice between the progressive wing (Bernie Sanders, etc), versus corporate Dems, but in the end money won and constituents lost.

        Until corporate Dems are thrown out, the reality is that Republicans remain more likely to tackle Big Tech abuses.

        • @errerEnglish
          8•3 hours ago

          Here’s what I don’t get: if the leadership at Proton believes this shit, why share it on social media at all? It clearly isn’t going to make anyone in the left happy. Are they trying to capture porn-loving MAGA?

      • @CatsGoMOWEnglish
        6•3 hours ago

        You have to look at their comments/replies or whatever. Someone above already posted the link.

    • @JubilantJaguar
      -8•4 hours ago

      Significant if true. But still. Proton has a great product and a lot of stored-up goodwill. I think the reasonable thing to do here is to wait and see, and to judge them on actions before words.

      • @CatsGoMOWEnglish
        11•3 hours ago

        I’m not jumping ship yet and am waiting to see what, if anything, happens from here. Maybe it comes out that the same person has access to that official Mastadon account and echoed their opinion there… and maybe it comes out that his comments/actions are disavowed by the rest of the organization.

        I’ll wait and see. But it’s not a great start.

        • @JubilantJaguar
          -4•3 hours ago

          Fair enough. But this whole drama is still completely substance-free. The air of US-style thought-policing bothers me.