• @JiveTurkey
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    12 days ago

    I tried to challenge some ideas in World News and I guess asking questions about Chinese censorship is xenophobic. Now I’m banned for not being pro Chinese censorship.

    • [email protected]
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      10812 days ago

      .ml

      There’s your problem. If they stated their rules, rather than forcing people to figure them out by trial and error, I’d have less of an issue with it. Like, lemmygrad is explicit in its intent and they state it outright in their rules. Lemmy.ml plays it too coy, and so comes off as incredibly manipulative.

      • NaibofTabr
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        4412 days ago

        You just broke the secret law!

        Typical fascist behavior.

      • JWBananas
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        1211 days ago

        Sounds very You have been banned from /r/Pyongyang

      • @WhatYouNeed
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        811 days ago

        Rule 1 - whatever we decide it is at that moment

    • @Maggoty
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      2812 days ago

      Oh gosh, I thought you meant .world World News for a minute there. Yeah the problem is .ml, they’re tankies.

    • @[email protected]
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      7 days ago

      whats that about “curry smell” and “they discovered deodorant”?

      edit: nvm, those are from somebody else

      • BombOmOm
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        Those are other users’ comments. Not sure how those are relevant to JiveTurkey’s comments.

        • @[email protected]
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          1212 days ago

          I wouldn’t take it seriously, they gave me a month long instance ban for saying a federal representative democracy is by definition a type of democracy.

          “American propaganda” or something.

                • @[email protected]
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                  God, shut up nerd, like your red fascist bullshit and their one party elections were or are better. Do you want to hear that it’s a flawed system? It is. All states are and should be abolished.

                  Still a type of democracy, and still more democratic than anything Russia or China have ever managed.

                  • queermunist she/her
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                    The United States was founded as a white supremacist settler-colony. This shit is the same as calling Israel a democracy.

                    How come the US can be “flawed” but China is “red fascist”? The US is white fascist. You want to talk about fascism? The US’s prison population is higher than either the USSR was or China is, and under Trump it’s going to get worse! Where’s the democracy for the millions of undocumented workers that the US relies on to run its economy, that the US is gearing up to round up by the millions into prison camps? Where’s their democracy? Where’s the democracy for the hundreds of thousands of child brides and child laborers all across the US? Half a million children pick almost a quarter of the food currently produced in the United States. They pay taxes, are forced to give birth, but they can’t vote.

                    Trump didn’t even get 50% of the vote, and now he’s in charge of everything. “Democracy”

                    We have to accept that the US is not democratic; it’s reformed fascism, and those reforms are in danger right now. If you ever want the US to be a democracy you need to recognize this and protect the democratic reforms we have.

                • @JiveTurkey
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                  Uhhh yeah. The Constitution establishes a federal democratic republic form of government. That is, we have an indivisible union of 50 sovereign States. It is a democracy because people govern themselves. It is representative because people choose elected officials by free and secret ballot.

                  • queermunist she/her
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                    It’s democracy when only white men are allowed to choose representatives? What?

                    It’s settler-colonialism. Fascism. Where was the democracy for the Natives? Or the slaves? The original system has had many democratic reforms, but denying its roots as fundamentally undemocratic is historical revisionism and blinds you to the US’s flaws. You’ll never fix this country’s problems if you can’t even recognize this.

      • @grue
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        512 days ago

        Those sound like comments on a different topic, specifically the story about Paris’ improvements in air quality lately (because they built bike infrastructure and partially banned cars). I had to remove nearly identical comments in the [email protected] thread on it, for the same reason.

    • @SpaceNoodle
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      612 days ago

      Well, there’s also the racism

      • @JiveTurkey
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        2212 days ago

        Serious question. Did I say something racist?

        • @SpaceNoodle
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          2412 days ago

          Now that I look again, I see that you failed to filter the logs and some other user’s trash was in there.

    • @Godric
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      12 days ago

      I jive with you, Türkiye!

    • @teohhanhui
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      To be fair, there are plenty of critical content. It’s just that they use coded language to avoid the censorship. (Probably not on XHS / RedNote though? It’s more of a Facebook equivalent.)

    • GodlessCommie
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      You weren’t trying to challenge ideas. You were regurgitating US propaganda.

      • @JiveTurkey
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        612 days ago

        Just asking questions instead of excusing it all under the guise of propaganda. I have no doubt some of it is, but all of it?

        • GodlessCommie
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          When our government has a long history of direct lies it’s safe to assume everything they say is a lie.

          • finder
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            211 days ago

            My man, I am really curious where you get your news from.

          • @JiveTurkey
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            211 days ago

            I don’t think that’s ever safe to assume and ignore critical thinking