Summary

TikTok became unavailable in the U.S. on January 20, 2025, after a federal ban targeting Chinese-owned ByteDance took effect.

Apple and Google removed TikTok and other ByteDance apps like CapCut and Lemon8 from their stores, and users saw a message stating the app was no longer accessible.

The law, signed by President Biden and upheld by the Supreme Court, requires ByteDance to sell TikTok or face shutdown.

Trump may grant a 90-day extension, but no buyers have emerged.

The ban sparked debates on censorship, free speech, and national security.

  • @AdamEatsAss
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    2321 hours ago

    It’s crazy how a ban set for January 20th went into affect on January 18th.

    • @[email protected]
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      TikTok voluntarily went dark on the 19th, they’ve been saying publicly that without clarity from the Supreme Court that they would, which is interesting, because if they didn’t I have no idea how the US would enforce the ban.

      • @DomeGuy
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        619 hours ago

        “stop distributing your free app in my country by telling the two major companies based in my country to stop it or I’ll level massive fines against you and them”

        • @[email protected]
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          Delisting is not a ban though, and who’s going to force a Chinese company to pay fines levied by America? Delisting is the most they could do, use a VPN or sideloading and boom, you’d have tiktok again.

          • @CharlesDarwin
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            314 hours ago

            Yeah, but how many people know how to do that?

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              Not as many people as there are on there now for sure, but likely enough to tell a good portion of the rest how to do it. Russian and Chinese netizens are intricately familiar with VPN’s and networking because their governments create environments where they need to be, people cite this when they talk about how so many prolific hackers come from those countries since from the beginning they’ve needed to circumvent security to surf the web. I wouldn’t bet against something similar happening here if the conditions were right, maybe not to the same extent, but I’d imagine we’d be surprised how many do make it over that barrier.

              • @CharlesDarwin
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                513 hours ago

                I dunno. Getting people to “choose their instance” on Mastodon seems to be something insurmountable for a lot of people.

                • @[email protected]
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                  I was thinking about that too and I think the motivation is jussst barely different enough thanks to FOMO. Mastodon just doesn’t have the same amount of content as TikTok, especially to those already on TT. If Americans who used to use the app see the creators they used to follow bypassing the ban, they will feel like they’re missing something if they don’t, as opposed to what awaited them behind the hurdles of the fediverse was all unknown to them with little FOMO unless they already knew people on here. I could absolutely be wrong, but seeing Americans run to redbook tells me at least some of them are fighting, maybe aimlessly so, but still trying.

                  • @CharlesDarwin
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                    311 hours ago

                    All cogent points, for sure. I bet some significant percentage of people would make the effort given what you say - to get at the content - but if there is one thing that has been driven home for me as someone who works in IT, is that users can be very lazy as a general rule, and it still surprises me just how little basic troubleshooting most people will engage in before giving up.

                    But I guess all this is moot because donvict was apparently paid off and he is saying he’ll let them operate in the U.S. I suppose that will stay true as long as they keep paying him and his cronies protection money.

          • @[email protected]
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            618 hours ago

            They have must have assets in the US, as they have 7,000 US employees. So they could easily just go after those.

            • @[email protected]
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              317 hours ago

              You’re right and the US can snatch those for sure but let’s say Tiktok wasn’t planning on bribing Trump and instead decided to be non compliant and force the US to execute the ban somehow. Other than Servers and Real estate, I’d imagine all liquid would be long gone into China and the continued data from users would outweigh the cost of those seized assets, even with many users not being able to manage the technological hurdle of loading a delisted app

        • @AdamEatsAss
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          117 hours ago

          There is but you have to download it from their website. So it’s jank. Also no we interface is bad for getting new users.