Vincent Oriedo, a biotechnology scientist, had just such a question. What lessons have been learned, he asked, from Harris’s defeat in this vital swing county in a crucial battleground state that voted for Joe Biden four years ago, and how are the Democrats applying them?

“They did not answer the question,” he said.

“It tells me that they haven’t learned the lessons and they have their inner state of denial. I’ve been paying careful attention to the influencers within the Democratic party. Their discussions have centred around, ‘If only we messaged better, if only we had a better candidate, if only we did all these superficial things.’ There is really a lack of understanding that they are losing their base, losing constituencies they are taking for granted.”

“We have set ourselves up for generational loss because we keep promoting from within leaders that that do not criticise the moneyed interests. They refuse to take a hard look at what Americans actually believe and meet those needs.”

  • @negativeyoda
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    The small concession is that Trump is almost undoubtedly going to trip over his dick, so we’ll probably end up with a blue wave of some sort in 2028. Nothing will change for the DNC and no lessons will be learned, so 2032 looks bleak as shit.

    We need to understand that Dems are not going to fight for anyone besides their donors. They’d rather lose than take pointers from someone like Bernie

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      I’ve been hearing blue wave since 2016, it’s almost 10 years now. Where is this blue wave, democrats barely got majorities, but hardly what I would call a wave. It’s not going to happen in the next midterms, just another razor thin majority where some of the supposed Democrats vote alongside republicams to fuck over the people.

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        tbf, the majorities might have been thin but don’t sniff at the fact that the Dems toppled an incumbent president AND got the house AND got the senate in 2020.

        That is pretty unusual for American politics

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      From now on, the elections are rigged. The media is almost entirely fascist- or oligarch-controlled (to the extent that there’s a difference). The courts are so corrupted that there will be no justice from them until they are purged.

      But yeay, just sit there complacently and wait for the pendulum to swing. That’ll work.

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        Lol @ the people who think they can vote themselves back out of this mess. Trump made it quite clear that “You won’t have to vote anymore” after this term. I for one believe him. Even if he dies you’ll just get saddled with one of his sons, daughter, son-in-law, …

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      we’ll probably end up with a blue wave of some sort in 2028

      Don’t worry, that will get fucked up, too. A bunch of blue dogs who the DNC supports will win and they’ll claim that it’s a evidence that progressives can’t win.

      I’ve been through this bullshit enough times to have learned the pattern

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        I’ve been through this bullshit enough times to have learned the pattern

        Started paying attenion since 2012, could vote in 2016. I know the pattern too well, the gaslighting doesn’t work anymore.

        • Boomer Humor Doomergod
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          I had political awareness starting in 1990 and it’s been the same ever since then.

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            I wasn’t born until 97, so you reasonably had a head start. I only noticed I was a minority group once I reached sexual maturity, and then more things to make me “othered” later in life.

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      don’t worry, we can severely underestimate the enemy with no repercussions as the Democrats will be automatically winners next time without having to change tactics at all.

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        Ah. Yes. It is my fault and I’ll be the one fucking us as if I have any say in the DNC’s policy since they listened to the concerns of people like me except not at all. At this point the democrats are the enemy too, dingus

        I’m just editorilizing and am along for the shitty ride, homey. I don’t have control of the train and there are no brakes even if I did…