I know what you’re saying, but how is this any different than non-binary people that are between the binary of male and female…? Male and female are binary, but if at conception you are in an in-between state, that doesn’t get more non-binary lol.
Except it is pointless to talk about any of that, since the order defines what male and female means.
Males are those belonging at conception to the sex producing small reproductive cells (aka sperm).
Females are those belonging at conception to the sex producing large reproductive cells (aka eggs).
Since at conception I (and everyone else) did not produce either, I am now neither male nor female according to the new definitions.
These posts just show that the loudest people on the left are just as scientifically illiterate as the loudest people on the right :( I mean, it’s mostly just reading with understanding they fail at, not even lacking knowledge…
But aren’t the sex chromosomes decided at the moment of conception (or even with the sperm/egg). They need to work on their bigotry, it’s frankly just basic biology. “their legal gender is their sex chromosomes upon conception”. Although that opens another can of worms for those people whose chromosomes don’t match their genitals, but I’m sure they can throw a few asterisks in there to sort that out.
Except in cases like Swyer syndrome where even with a Y chromosome, gonads won’t develop properly and the person will develop normal female genitals instead.
I looked more into Swyer syndrome, and, those who have it (out of 334 million, about 4 thousand people suffer from this) and it looks like they are female. I wasn’t able to find any studies where testosterone was given over estrogen, and female sex organs and female puberty is usually developed.
Still, even if they were in a state of in-between forever, they still wouldn’t be anything other than in between the two options. There is no third option.
…that’s not how that works.
Early stages of development are bipotential, which means they could develop either way, they’re not initially female.
Around 6-7 weeks, if carrying a Y chromosome carrying the gene SRY, they develop into testes. If there are two X chromosomes, then ovaries develop.
…So we’re all legally non-binary? NBs rise up!
No, it’s very binary, because it’s either or.
Right, but if you start as bi-potential, then you aren’t one or the other, but are in an a tertiary in between state.
Yes, but you’re not born like that, you are one or the other.
Isnt that kind of the point? The EO specifies at conception, not at birth. Birth has nothing to do with this.
The point is, it’s binary. Non binary would mean there’s a lot of different options. There’s not. Just two.
I know what you’re saying, but how is this any different than non-binary people that are between the binary of male and female…? Male and female are binary, but if at conception you are in an in-between state, that doesn’t get more non-binary lol.
Nobody is actually none binary. They can say they are and we can pronoun them as such, but they’re physically one or the other. So, binary.
This. It’s incredible how people miss this little important fact
Except it is pointless to talk about any of that, since the order defines what male and female means.
Males are those belonging at conception to the sex producing small reproductive cells (aka sperm).
Females are those belonging at conception to the sex producing large reproductive cells (aka eggs).
Since at conception I (and everyone else) did not produce either, I am now neither male nor female according to the new definitions.
These posts just show that the loudest people on the left are just as scientifically illiterate as the loudest people on the right :( I mean, it’s mostly just reading with understanding they fail at, not even lacking knowledge…
People too often forget that its as important to be critical of the things you believe in as well ad the things you don’t.
You should be constantly questioning and reassessing your own beliefs.
But aren’t the sex chromosomes decided at the moment of conception (or even with the sperm/egg). They need to work on their bigotry, it’s frankly just basic biology. “their legal gender is their sex chromosomes upon conception”. Although that opens another can of worms for those people whose chromosomes don’t match their genitals, but I’m sure they can throw a few asterisks in there to sort that out.
Yes, they can throw a few asterisks in there to sort it out, agreed.
Except in cases like Swyer syndrome where even with a Y chromosome, gonads won’t develop properly and the person will develop normal female genitals instead.
I looked more into Swyer syndrome, and, those who have it (out of 334 million, about 4 thousand people suffer from this) and it looks like they are female. I wasn’t able to find any studies where testosterone was given over estrogen, and female sex organs and female puberty is usually developed.
Still, even if they were in a state of in-between forever, they still wouldn’t be anything other than in between the two options. There is no third option.