• @jordanlundOPM
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    3710 hours ago

    By “Indians” here they mean Native Americans. O_o

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      “The United States’ connection with the children of illegal aliens and temporary visitors is weaker than its connection with members of Indian tribes. If the latter link is insufficient for birthright citizenship, the former certainly is,” the Trump administration argued.

      Everything they are saying about Native Americans is to support their argument against immigrants.

      The United States’ connection with the children of illegal aliens and temporary visitors is weak…

      I don’t accept this. The people who are not “subject to the jurisdiction” are agents of, or in the service of foreign governments. Like diplomats, spies, or soldiers in an invading army. People following the orders of foreign governments. People paid by foreign governments to be in the US. The US connection to the children of these foreign agents is weaker than the US connection to Native American tribes. The children of these agents don’t have a claim to citizenship under the 14th amendment.

      BUt Private individuals who choose to come to the US are not acting under orders from a foreign government. They come here - legally or illegally - under their own volition. In doing so, they directly subject themselves to US law, which means that their children born in the US fall under the 14th Amendment.

      • @jordanlundOPM
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        68 hours ago

        I have no idea, but I expect it’s better than “Indians”.

        • @[email protected]
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          08 hours ago

          Pretty sure the documentary I saw and the person they spoke to preferred “Indians” but it’s not like 1 tribe speaks for all of them? You probably should do some research before you sound like my grandpa without his hearing aids, yelling about the “orientals” and embarrassing the fuck out of me.

          • @jordanlundOPM
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            58 hours ago

            I’m just naturally assuming Trump quoting language from the 1800s is going to be offensive to somebody…

            • @[email protected]
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              28 hours ago

              A broken clock is correct twice a day. Never let your bias cloud your vision, your judgement, and reality.

              • @PwnTra1n
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                57 hours ago

                a stopped clock might be right twice a day but a broken clock might never be right depending on how broken it is.

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                  27 hours ago

                  Technically you are correct the best kind of correct. I also enjoy how the stopped clock is absolutely correct twice a day while a “working” clock is never absolutely correct.

                  • @PwnTra1n
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                    16 hours ago

                    how broken is the clock though?