I think that might work as a nod towards both the fans and the haters of the show but if like to hear what you’d think.
I think that the haters have no say in this. If we started listening to the haters of everything, we’d never get anything done. Moreover, Trek is about diversity. About inclusion. Hope. Standing together. Fighting misinformation. Not giving in to negative feelings. Not letting those negative feelings rule or define you. Not caving to the negative feelings of others but being strong and steadfast. There’s no reason why Star Trek would, or should, ever kowtow to haters. They simply do not matter when it comes to creativity and especially when it comes to Star Trek. They hated TNG. They hated DS9. They hated Voyager. They’re gonna keep hating everything comes out that isn’t exactly how they want it. Fuck them. They have no worth. They spend their time taking things apart in the least constructive way possible while just screaming. Zero conversational value and zero value when it comes to trying to build something. They only tear it down. Nothing is ever going to be for everyone but Star Trek is about spreading enough diversity around that everyone gets to enjoy something. I refuse to allow those people to sully the basics and fundamentals of the Federation because they don’t like a television show.
But.
That being said.
It still doesn’t work lore-wise because the Discovery was marked as destroyed in a classified format. Starfleet would shut down any in-universe show about something classified. While the Spore Drive never survived, knowledge that it was a classified ship did, as well as a couple of the things it did, such as its jaunt to the mirror universe.
Eh, good point about the secrecy. You’d have to really twist the lore into a pretzel in order to accommodate that and that ain’t worth it for what’s essentially a throwaway gag.
As for bowing to haters, I definitely wouldn’t do that. I’d acknowledge that there is some controversy with a tongue-in-cheek reference but I wouldn’t take a side. That’s the fans’ job – and let’s be honest here, everyone who debates the canonicity of DSC is a Star Trek fan, just maybe not one of that particular show. People who hate Trek in general will not engage in debates about relative worth; to them, all of the shows suck.
everyone who debates the canonicity of DSC is a Star Trek fan, just maybe not one of that particular show.
You’d think. But we’ve seen a lot here as the mod level and there are quite a few people who clearly aren’t fans of Star Trek with how they’ll whine about how there is a gay character or a trans character or a woman first officer/captain/admiral. Those people clearly missed the point of Star Trek.
It’s not just that. It’s people who claim to be Star Trek fans but actively ignore everything Star Trek stands for. Those aren’t people who injected themselves in to complain, they’re just deluded. You see it with every new series. People come out of the woodwork to complain about diversity or inclusion. Easy to forget now, but Voyager and DS9 both got insane amounts of flak for having a female and a black Captain, respectively. These are people who can quote Star Trek until they’re blue in the face but will never let what they’re quoting marinate.
I think that the haters have no say in this. If we started listening to the haters of everything, we’d never get anything done. Moreover, Trek is about diversity. About inclusion. Hope. Standing together. Fighting misinformation. Not giving in to negative feelings. Not letting those negative feelings rule or define you. Not caving to the negative feelings of others but being strong and steadfast. There’s no reason why Star Trek would, or should, ever kowtow to haters. They simply do not matter when it comes to creativity and especially when it comes to Star Trek. They hated TNG. They hated DS9. They hated Voyager. They’re gonna keep hating everything comes out that isn’t exactly how they want it. Fuck them. They have no worth. They spend their time taking things apart in the least constructive way possible while just screaming. Zero conversational value and zero value when it comes to trying to build something. They only tear it down. Nothing is ever going to be for everyone but Star Trek is about spreading enough diversity around that everyone gets to enjoy something. I refuse to allow those people to sully the basics and fundamentals of the Federation because they don’t like a television show.
But.
That being said.
It still doesn’t work lore-wise because the Discovery was marked as destroyed in a classified format. Starfleet would shut down any in-universe show about something classified. While the Spore Drive never survived, knowledge that it was a classified ship did, as well as a couple of the things it did, such as its jaunt to the mirror universe.
Eh, good point about the secrecy. You’d have to really twist the lore into a pretzel in order to accommodate that and that ain’t worth it for what’s essentially a throwaway gag.
As for bowing to haters, I definitely wouldn’t do that. I’d acknowledge that there is some controversy with a tongue-in-cheek reference but I wouldn’t take a side. That’s the fans’ job – and let’s be honest here, everyone who debates the canonicity of DSC is a Star Trek fan, just maybe not one of that particular show. People who hate Trek in general will not engage in debates about relative worth; to them, all of the shows suck.
You’d think. But we’ve seen a lot here as the mod level and there are quite a few people who clearly aren’t fans of Star Trek with how they’ll whine about how there is a gay character or a trans character or a woman first officer/captain/admiral. Those people clearly missed the point of Star Trek.
Fair enough. I forgot that some people will happily inject themselves into any social group solely to complain about stuff.
Sadly, there are always hooligans looking for a fight. Sometimes it’s to push a political agenda and someone’s it’s just because they love to fight.
It’s not just that. It’s people who claim to be Star Trek fans but actively ignore everything Star Trek stands for. Those aren’t people who injected themselves in to complain, they’re just deluded. You see it with every new series. People come out of the woodwork to complain about diversity or inclusion. Easy to forget now, but Voyager and DS9 both got insane amounts of flak for having a female and a black Captain, respectively. These are people who can quote Star Trek until they’re blue in the face but will never let what they’re quoting marinate.