Please, don’t say stuff like that… I’ve worked jobs where I loathed the company values, but I needed income… One charged more for funerals of “brown” people and had a book on the shelf of the manager’s office that said “The Myth of Heterosexual AIDS”. I’m pansexual and my partner is an immigrant. A job is not a belief. A job is a way to keep a roof over your head until you find a better one
External circumstances don’t turn an immoral action into a moral one. You can never make up for the harms you do in the world. The circumstances you describe sometimes exist but more often than not, there is a choice, but we lack the courage to acknowledge it even exists.
If you became disabled, and suddenly you COULDN’T do the immoral job anymore, well by god, you’d likely find a way to survive. So…
Or maybe you will not survive, we can play with woulds and shoulds all day here.
External circumstances don’t turn an immoral action into a moral one
That depends on your definition of moral action I guess…
Also we are talking about an accident here, most likely the heavy machine operator doesn’t clear homeless shelters every day, but works on a scrapyard or something.
Fair points. Not everyone can upend their life like that. I have certainly suffered greatly for doing what I did.
I totally agree that this is a problem with the system.
Everyone can upend their life when they genuinely don’t have another choice. People keep doing the thing they know is wrong because they DO have a choice.
Please, don’t say stuff like that… I’ve worked jobs where I loathed the company values, but I needed income… One charged more for funerals of “brown” people and had a book on the shelf of the manager’s office that said “The Myth of Heterosexual AIDS”. I’m pansexual and my partner is an immigrant. A job is not a belief. A job is a way to keep a roof over your head until you find a better one
Yeah, this is exactly why they keep us poor and without security–so we can’t act according to our morals. Only theirs.
I had a job like that too. When I realized how unethical the place was, I quit.
Would you have quit if that means you starved? Also your healthcare was immediately ended because it was provided by your job?
What if you had kids? How do you explain to your child you are not eating today because daddy is a moral person?
I see your point, and you did good by quitting, but it is not the people to blame here but the system.
External circumstances don’t turn an immoral action into a moral one. You can never make up for the harms you do in the world. The circumstances you describe sometimes exist but more often than not, there is a choice, but we lack the courage to acknowledge it even exists.
If you became disabled, and suddenly you COULDN’T do the immoral job anymore, well by god, you’d likely find a way to survive. So…
Or maybe you will not survive, we can play with woulds and shoulds all day here.
That depends on your definition of moral action I guess…
Also we are talking about an accident here, most likely the heavy machine operator doesn’t clear homeless shelters every day, but works on a scrapyard or something.
Fair points. Not everyone can upend their life like that. I have certainly suffered greatly for doing what I did. I totally agree that this is a problem with the system.
Everyone can upend their life when they genuinely don’t have another choice. People keep doing the thing they know is wrong because they DO have a choice.