• @maplebar
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    I hate to say “I told you so”, but there it is. Nothing is in place to stop Trump and Netenyahu from going truly scorched earth on Gaza and the West Bank now.

    Time to see what a real, unmitigated genocide looks like.

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      I’m sorry but did you think they were using kid gloves before?

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        There are an estimated 2,000,000 people in the Gaza strip.

        We can continue this discussion in 4 years.

        • @Ensign_Crab
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          There are an estimated 2,000,000 people in the Gaza strip.

          And this offends centrists and republicans alike.

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        We wouldn’t be having this conversation if it were an unmitigated genocide because every Palestinian would already be dead.

        Israel, courtesy of the US, has enough firepower to wipe out the West Bank and Gaza several times over. Yet it never happens. Why?

        Perhaps, Netanyahu and his ilk have something to gain by keeping the conflict active.

        But ultimately they want to take the territory. They dream of making Gaza, specifically its beach, a tourist destination.

        Trump is going to help make all of this happen sooner than it would have. He wants peace in the Middle East to be one of his legacies and the quickest means to that end is to give Israel what it wants.

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          You know genocide doesn’t require any death, much less the extermination of the entire population right?

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          I’m Jewish. The Germans committed an unmitigated genocide for a long time, but here we are talking.

          The definition of genocide does not require you to kill all of them.

          Israel will never succeed in killing all Palestinians, and they still have committed genocide

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          We wouldn’t be having this conversation if it were an unmitigated genocide because every Palestinian would already be dead.

          I submit that the Holocaust happened even though there are still Jewish people.

          Israel, courtesy of the US, has enough firepower to wipe out the West Bank and Gaza several times over. Yet it never happens. Why?

          You seem so disappointed.

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            21 day ago

            The Holocaust was not a territorial dispute. Completely different situation. Also I would not call it an unmitigated genocide. It was mitigated by the efforts of the allied forces.

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              territorial dispute

              Holy fuck. This is now the most disgusting mealy-mouthed euphemism for genocide I’ve ever seen. Shame on you.

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                Sadly, territorial disputes can result in genocide, as we have seen in this case.

                It’s also interesting to see how quickly (in less than a generation) the victims of a genocide can become perpetrators of one. It says something, quite demoralizing, about humanity.

                • @Ensign_Crab
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                  Sadly, territorial disputes can result in genocide, as we have seen in this case.

                  How nice of you to finally admit that it’s a genocide.

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          They’re doing it as fast as they think they can get away with.

          “Oh he could just carpet bomb all of Gaza and he hasn’t, ever think about whyyyyyyy”?

          What an utterly ridiculous premise, and you’re explaining their actions on this? Just so pathetic.

      • @maplebar
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        If that’s what you think, then stay tuned!

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      Yep, calling it a genocide in 2024 is going to look like the dumbest take ever. I mean it was already an extremely poor take in 2024, but some not very bright people seemed to have bought it. And then they managed to make half the Democrat leadership chant the same dumb thing over and over.

      Dunno if this lost the election, but it sure didn’t help.

      • @Ensign_Crab
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        Yep, calling it a genocide in 2024 is going to look like the dumbest take ever.

        Genocide denial is disgusting behavior.

      • Anti-Face Weapon
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        Repeatedly targeting civilian populations with remote strikes amounts to genocide. Thousands of children have been murdered. Kicking Palestinians out of there homes for Israeli settlers is ethnic cleansing.

      • @T00l_shed
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        It is a genocide. Two things can be true at once.

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        are you a paid actor or just blind? clear the fog in your small brain and rethink about what is going on

      • @maplebar
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        If that’s what you think, then stay tuned!

        • @[email protected]
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          62 days ago

          Remember when George Bush announced “Mission Accomplished”?

          And remember when right after it was announced, Israel attacked Gaza again?

          • @Ensign_Crab
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            Centrists think people should be happy with the announcement alone.