• Nougat
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    821 month ago

    … will spark civil unrest …

    Don’t tease me.

      • @[email protected]
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        171 month ago

        He’s already said he’s thinking of using the insurrection act to invoke martial law within the next 90 days.

    • @NocturnalMorning
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      -361 month ago

      I can’t stand comments like this. You act like civil unrest won’t get people hurt, or maybe even killed.

      • Gigliorananomicom
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        191 month ago

        Birthing pains, bro. Birthing pains.

        Positive change doesn’t come without sacrifice.

        If you wanna make an omelette, some people gotta die.

        • @NocturnalMorning
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          -261 month ago

          Easy to say that on the internet. I don’t see anybody picking up their pitch forks to stop this.

          • Gigliorananomicom
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            201 month ago

            Maybe crack a history book sometime and check out how we got all the nice freedoms we have now 😂

              • ThrowawayOnLemmy
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                151 month ago

                History tends to repeat itself. And clearly we haven’t learned any lessons, so it’s gonna repeat itself again.

          • @cm0002
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            171 month ago

            We tried back in November, but too many people were screeching about BlUeMaGa, bOtHSiDeS and gEnoCiDe jOe

            So it is what it is

            • @TropicalDingdong
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              Or rather, people continuously excused the rightward shift of Democrats, resulting in them thinking they dint need to be responsible to responding to their base, which they largely abandoned.

              But sure, keep blaming the voters instead of those that held power and could have actually changed strategy.

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                We already had an answer for that, RCV and other FPTP alternatives were spreading just fine, all that had to happen was to keep Orange Face out of office last election and the Democrats would have fallen later. After Drump was in jail and MAGA imploded

                But nooo, y’all fell for quite possibly a right-wing propaganda campaign and now we’re all paying for it

                But we sure taught the DNC a lesson at those polls amiright!

                • @TropicalDingdong
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                  You show the complete inability to understand why Democrats lost this election, and seem to be doing what it takes to keep it that way. There is an ilk who in the run-up, could not withstand any criticism of Democrats, in part or whole. The silenced any call for redress in the policies Democrats campaigned on or the strategies they were using. Democrats felt no pressure to shift towards policies more popular with the electorate and lost, expectedly.

                  It was obvious then that they were going to lose. But any criticism of their approach was told to STFU, that you were a Russian shill or bot, whatever. Had the, frankly, intentionally ignorant cowards, making these apologist arguments actually focused their criticisms against Democrats, we did have time to move them towards more popular positions in the run-up to the convention and the few weeks afterwards. Those who refused to hear or accept the valid criticisms levied against Democrats did more to support Trump than any other cohort. Blue MAGA, the sycophants and apologists of the Democratic party, handed this election to Trump on a silver platter and that won’t be forgotten. Their intentional naivety around how politics actually functions changes nothing.

                  • Nougat
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                    51 month ago

                    Based on the election results, the “policies more popular with the electorate” were fascist ones. More Americans voted for fascism than didn’t.

                    How could Democrats do this???

            • Boomer Humor Doomergod
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              Those folks pale in comparison to the Dems not bothering to say they’d change anything.

              • @cm0002
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                Trump: IM GOING TO DESTROY THIS COUNTRY

                Dems: We’re not going to do that and we’ll do A and B

                You: WHAT ABOUT Z AND Y!!! FUCK YOU WE’LL GIVE THIS COUNTRY TO TRUMP000!!!

                • @TropicalDingdong
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                  We needed Democrats to run a campaign that could actually win. Defending their indefensible stances on issues like the border and Israel lost Democrats this election. You fucking gave this country to Trump, not the critics of Democrats.

                  • @SmilingSolaris
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                    True. You are 100% right. People want to blame non voters when the Dems ran with the explicit policy of fucking those people over. They say vote blue no matter who and they fucking lost. Welcome to the real solution. Go left or die.

          • @[email protected]
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            151 month ago

            Uh… have you been living under a rock? There have been multiple assassination attempts recently, one successful.

      • Nougat
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        151 month ago

        I can’t stand comments like this. You act like people aren’t going to be hurt and die without civil unrest.

      • @TrickDacy
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        I would agree with you if they had mentioned people getting violent, but instead their tone is more like they hope something causes a change. They are not gleefully wishing for violence here imo

        • @NocturnalMorning
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          Hard to tell, I was pointing out the joking tone of it. Bcz civil unrest isn’t a joke, whether it’s warranted or not. It ends up being scary for a lot of people.

          • @TrickDacy
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            Agreed. I took it as gallows humor. But who knows. We are fucked right now.

            • Nougat
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              Since you’re wondering aloud –

              Fascists control the US federal government, and many state governments. There will be violence. The only questions are who starts it, when, how much, and who wins.

              It’s coming, let’s get it over with so we can be done with this dark hour in history more quickly.

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                It’s a little frightening that you think there’s much chance it benefits anybody other than the fascists.

                This isn’t the pre-revolutionary era where a large amount of people would effectively take up arms and pose a credible threat.

                They have the mechanisms of government, they have the militias, they have the backing of a significant chunk of the populace, they have the most businessmen, they have their own locked down media ecosystem, etc etc.

                We can look to N Korea and Russia and see that a population can indeed be stabilized under modern totalitarian rule, it just took some practice for humanity to learn how to pull it off. And you want to roll the dice on this now, here?

                edit to add a word

                  • @Carrolade
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                    21 month ago

                    One extreme or the other, eh? It’s not between fight now or give up, there is a whole spectrum in between, that takes things like opportunity and timing into account.

                    I think there’s a term for that, when a person only represents the options as one of two extremes.