Correct. Taiwan considers it a matter of national security to never allow their best processes to be exported. That monopoly is why Taiwan still exists.
That was interesting but it didnt talk about the export ban. It was more like an overview of the Taiwanese economy and how the chip industry relates to it.
They did say American worker is lazy and expects highest pay lol
Cry me a fucking river. This corpo really forgot who defends their precious island. American tax payer spends good money in your support. Show some fucking respect.
Maybe I’m misreading because one poster above deleted their comment, but I can’t understand: how exactly has TSMC shown “disrespect”? Or was the poster showing disrespect?
Putting corporations aside and speaking of states: the US and Taiwan have respectful and friendly relations. They depend on each other.
Now, a tariff of 25-100% on a partner’s primary export and one’s own vitally important import is more like putting a shotgun to one’s leg out of spite. It would be hurting oneself and hurting the other side - and not a little bit.
The US is a store that Taiwan frequently shops in - a very big defense equipment store, I should say. Some of the toys cost money, but if you buy enough, you get kickbacks - the US gives Taiwan some security assistance for free. It also says it will assist Taiwan if anyone (we can imagine who that might be) attacks it.
Meanwhile, Taiwan is a store the world frequently shops in - a very big microprocessor, memory and microcontroller store. Frequent customers can tell TSMC “it would be nice if you brought some of your business here, we have a vacant spot suitable for your plans”. And it works: one factory will be built in the US, one factory in the EU. Maybe elsewhere too. Getting that to happen didn’t need Trump or insane levels of customs tariffs.
To achieve that, people just negotiated like normal people do. TMSC know they operate in a country prone to violent earthquakes and close to an agressive neighbour, they are quite OK with placing some of their business abroad.
The US gets an unsinkable aircraft off the coast of PRC, while Taiwan assumes all the risks of a war with PRC. If anything the US should show some respects to its allies instead of treating them like disposable pawns.
Just to be clear, we do not guve a shit about : China, Taiwan, All of South east Asia, Ukraine, Russia, All of Eastern Europe, Saudi Arabia, Israel, Palestine, Iran, all of MENA
You people are all own your own, stop embroilling us in your god damned fucking wars.
The US definitely doesn’t give a shit about all those countries.
But my take is the US is doing it so that it can continue its global dominance. Russia or China will happily take its place if the US relents. Are you willing to take a backseat to China or Russia? Doubtful.
Wasn’t this the same justification that America used to send factory jobs overseas? I feel repeating verbatim what the US has stated is the ultimate sign of respect.
TSMC was supposed to open a plant in the US, but apparently that takes a bit of time to get running.
I thought the US FAB was also going to be a generation behind?
Correct. Taiwan considers it a matter of national security to never allow their best processes to be exported. That monopoly is why Taiwan still exists.
Aka the silicon shield https://www.morganstanley.com/im/publication/insights/articles/article_taiwanssiliconshield_ltr.pdf
That was interesting but it didnt talk about the export ban. It was more like an overview of the Taiwanese economy and how the chip industry relates to it.
They did say American worker is lazy and expects highest pay lol
Cry me a fucking river. This corpo really forgot who defends their precious island. American tax payer spends good money in your support. Show some fucking respect.
Maybe I’m misreading because one poster above deleted their comment, but I can’t understand: how exactly has TSMC shown “disrespect”? Or was the poster showing disrespect?
Putting corporations aside and speaking of states: the US and Taiwan have respectful and friendly relations. They depend on each other.
Now, a tariff of 25-100% on a partner’s primary export and one’s own vitally important import is more like putting a shotgun to one’s leg out of spite. It would be hurting oneself and hurting the other side - and not a little bit.
The US is a store that Taiwan frequently shops in - a very big defense equipment store, I should say. Some of the toys cost money, but if you buy enough, you get kickbacks - the US gives Taiwan some security assistance for free. It also says it will assist Taiwan if anyone (we can imagine who that might be) attacks it.
Meanwhile, Taiwan is a store the world frequently shops in - a very big microprocessor, memory and microcontroller store. Frequent customers can tell TSMC “it would be nice if you brought some of your business here, we have a vacant spot suitable for your plans”. And it works: one factory will be built in the US, one factory in the EU. Maybe elsewhere too. Getting that to happen didn’t need Trump or insane levels of customs tariffs.
To achieve that, people just negotiated like normal people do. TMSC know they operate in a country prone to violent earthquakes and close to an agressive neighbour, they are quite OK with placing some of their business abroad.
I am a US worker and TSMC execs spoke shit about the US workers and said we get paid too much.
I am expected to tolerate such behavior from a foreign corpo parasite when my taxes are spent to defend them?
Y’all, can’t conceptualize the separation here lol
Brother have you just willfully ignored what US CEOs say every day about US workers?
US CEOs also get the guillotine
Read my body of work dear…
Typo Fixed
That’s weird, I see it’s been edited but there’s no “been edited” icon next to it.
Federation issue. Sometimes it makes time to update
The US gets an unsinkable aircraft off the coast of PRC, while Taiwan assumes all the risks of a war with PRC. If anything the US should show some respects to its allies instead of treating them like disposable pawns.
Just to be clear, we do not guve a shit about : China, Taiwan, All of South east Asia, Ukraine, Russia, All of Eastern Europe, Saudi Arabia, Israel, Palestine, Iran, all of MENA
You people are all own your own, stop embroilling us in your god damned fucking wars.
The US definitely doesn’t give a shit about all those countries.
But my take is the US is doing it so that it can continue its global dominance. Russia or China will happily take its place if the US relents. Are you willing to take a backseat to China or Russia? Doubtful.
Eventually humanity will rid itself of the imperial disease. Or perish.
In the mean time, it is better US (United States) than THEM (The Hegemony of Evil Manchurians)
Poor USA, forced to be an empire
That only the washing and corporate gremlins that want an empire. They should be recycled as cat food.
Wasn’t this the same justification that America used to send factory jobs overseas? I feel repeating verbatim what the US has stated is the ultimate sign of respect.
Sir, I am not “the US”, i am USian pedon, merely a subject, speaking on my own behalf.
If anything US should show some respect & lick the boots of EU, Taiwan & India
Y’all got some weak reading comp here lol
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