• @UnderpantsWeevil
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    63 hours ago

    The Dem base has been fully bought out by corporate interests. They are “controlled opposition” in every sense. A vestigial remnant of their 1940s peak that mostly exists to rein in the excesses of the prior conservative leadership (although, one could argue even FDR ultimately filled that role).

    (Gore had majority in Florida in the end, did you hear CNN reporting about it?)

    The degree to which Florida has been fumbled by Dems for the last 30 years cannot be overstated.

    • @[email protected]
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      -43 hours ago

      The degree to which Florida has been fumbled by Dems for the last 30 years cannot be overstated.

      As much as they messed up there, I have to point out that a significant percentage of the voters went for Nader (although would have preferred Gore to Bush). That stupid idiotic moronic idealism cost them and the world two pointless wars in the Middle East, whose ripple effects can still be felt. Nevertheless R’s just stole the election and the D’s rolled over I suppose in order not to cause instability and keep the corporate overlords happy. Can you imagine how angry the R machinery would have gotten if the roles were reversed (possibly some of the D base as well, but just because they’re not similar scum as R voters)?

      • @Ensign_Crab
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        138 minutes ago

        Centrists will blame progressives any time they lose, even if they actually lost because the Supreme Court handed Republicans a victory.

      • @[email protected]
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        52 hours ago

        That stupid idiotic moronic idealism cost them and the world two pointless wars in the Middle East

        Agreed. Moronic idealism to back corporate interests over the working class by the Dems certainly screwed us over.

        Imagine if the Dems actually stole policies from Nader, and sucked in those Nader voters? Imagine how much better we’d be as a nation?

      • @UnderpantsWeevil
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        32 hours ago

        That stupid idiotic moronic idealism cost them

        Nader pulled from D and R voters in equal measure. That’s not why Gore lost. Miami-Dade county was deliberately obstructed from completing its vote counting by Republican campaign staff

        Both Roger Stone and Brad Blakeman take credit for managing the riot from a command post, although their accounts contradict each other. Republican New York Representative John E. Sweeney gave the signal that started the riot, telling an aide to “shut it down”.

        Blaming Nader for a judicial coup is asinine. Dems pivoting hard right as a result - by embracing Iraq Warmongering, financial deregulation, and rapid expansion of domestic O&G production - did significantly more damage to the party than Nader’s protest votes.

        Can you imagine how angry the R machinery would have gotten if the roles were reversed

        You hardly have to imagine. Just ask Republicans how they felt about the Perot voters in '92, when Clinton swept the EC with 43% of the total vote.