• @Ensign_Crab
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    14 hours ago

    Democrats defeated Trump once, which is still better than the track record of leftists.

    Democrats don’t let progressives win primaries if they can help it. Gloat.

    And if you don’t think the GOP unfairly influences the general election, then you need to google “voter suppression”.

    Which is a problem for centrists too.

    • @FlowVoid
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      14 hours ago

      Nobody “lets” someone win an election. Progressives need to earn their votes like everyone else. And if they earn enough votes, then they win regardless of what other Democrats think.

      • @Ensign_Crab
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        14 hours ago

        Nobody “lets” someone win an election.

        The party prevents progressives from winning if they can. Every progressive who has won a primary in the past decade or so has done so despite the party putting its thumb on the scale for their opponent.

        Progressives need to earn their votes like everyone else.

        It’s weird seeing a centrist say that votes need to be earned after they lost twice by acting entitled to votes.

        • @FlowVoid
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          4 hours ago

          Everyone who has ever won a contested primary faced opposition from within their own party.

          Leftists are ones who feel entitled to win an election without any opposition.

          • @Ensign_Crab
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            03 hours ago

            Everyone who has ever won a contested primary faced opposition from within their own party.

            The opposing candidate, yes. The entire party apparatus, no.

            Leftists are ones who feel entitled to win an election without any opposition.

            “Any opposition” does not mean having to fight the party instead of just your opponent.

            Centrists want to ignore the voters’ concerns and still expect their votes without question. That’s what entitlement looks like.

            • @FlowVoid
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              Party leaders get one vote each, just like everyone else. They can’t stop leftists from voting. So if leftist candidates want to win, they simply need to get more votes than their opponents.

              And if leftists are discouraged by opposition from “the party apparatus”, they are going to be devastated when they find out about the massive electoral advantages of incumbency. Incumbents win >90% of their elections!

              With all their whining about “party apparatus”, frankly I think most leftists don’t have the stomach to take on an incumbent. Which basically means they will never win an election.

              • @Ensign_Crab
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                03 hours ago

                Centrists only have to fight one party.

                • @FlowVoid
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                  03 hours ago

                  Centrists need to get more votes than their opponent. Just like everyone else.

                  If a candidate can’t do that, they are not a good candidate. Their excuses are irrelevant.

                  • @Ensign_Crab
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                    03 hours ago

                    You’re deliberately ignoring that the party does not run fair primaries, if it runs them at all. Repeat your talking point some more.