Yeah there’s this really weird group of people on Lemmy who are obsessed with thinking Twitter and blue sky are the exact same thing. I don’t know if it’s because they don’t get why people switch to Blue Sky or if they’re trying to purposely downplay the Nazi stuff on Twitter. I really can’t decide. Strongly leaning toward the latter.
You are on the Fediverse, a community centered primarily around free, open source, federated software watching every normie on the internet abandon one corpo playpen for another corpo playpen. Of course we’re upset about it.
I think Bluesky is currently better than twitter, I have absolutely no faith that it will remain that way.
This is exactly what I’m fucking talking about. Somehow hand waving away the fact that Twitter’s literally run by a Nazi promoting Nazi ideology. That’s not the same fucking thing as Blue Sky. To say so is bizarre. To play down that difference is bizarre. To act like it’s inevitably going to end up in the exact same place is bizarre.
Founder Jack Dorsey has abandoned Bluesky citing a lack of continued faith in the project and current CEO Jay Graber has primarily worked with cryptocurrency. My hopes are not high. Besides which, even if they do everything right and gain a huge following, Musk or Zuckerberg will just want to buy them out and our current government will allow them to do that.
Not being literal Nazis is definitely a mark in their favor, but the whole point of this argument in the first place is that free, open source, self hosted federated software is RIGHT HERE. We’re on it RIGHT NOW. With everyone abandoning major platforms because they’re full of Nazis, this is perhaps the single best opportunity we’re ever going to have to retake the internet for ourselves en masse. Which everyone is totally ignoring in favor of hopping onto the next corponet.
I’m not excusing Musk for shit, and I’m not accusing Bluesky of being as bad or worse than Nazis. That’s silly. I’d rather see users move to Bluesky than stay on X. But I’d much rather see them move to Mastodon. Corporations at large, especially social media corps have proven time and again that they can’t be trusted, so… don’t. Take back your own internet. The options are here already.
Possible it’s that. Could just be they hate that general format of twitter/bluesky for social media. I lump them together because I’d never use either. No clue on the actual populaces on them.
Honestly… Ya, literally any extra steps in signing up or slight bit of confusion is enough to make the average person give up and go back to whatever platform they are comfortable with. I’ve talked to people who dispise twitter but won’t even switch to Bluesky because the extra dot in the user handle is too weird for them.
Conflating ease of operation with ease of sign up. Have you ever tried to read an article online and something pops up and you left the page, even if it wasn’t necessarily trying to get you to log in? That’s the sort of thing they’re talking about.
The difference is more like automatic vs manual transmission. If you’ve only ever used automatic, the mere idea of gears to push is enough to scare most people out of learning. It’s the same with servers/instances and social media
I’ll admit, I just stopped trying after it happened a few times. It doesn’t offer anything worth the headache of selecting an instance.
Also when I was trying mastodon.social wasn’t available, I think? Don’t remember any more.
Does anyone actually say this though? I don’t think anyone who joined Bluesky did so for federation - they joined because it’s not Twitter.
Yeah there’s this really weird group of people on Lemmy who are obsessed with thinking Twitter and blue sky are the exact same thing. I don’t know if it’s because they don’t get why people switch to Blue Sky or if they’re trying to purposely downplay the Nazi stuff on Twitter. I really can’t decide. Strongly leaning toward the latter.
You are on the Fediverse, a community centered primarily around free, open source, federated software watching every normie on the internet abandon one corpo playpen for another corpo playpen. Of course we’re upset about it.
I think Bluesky is currently better than twitter, I have absolutely no faith that it will remain that way.
This is exactly what I’m fucking talking about. Somehow hand waving away the fact that Twitter’s literally run by a Nazi promoting Nazi ideology. That’s not the same fucking thing as Blue Sky. To say so is bizarre. To play down that difference is bizarre. To act like it’s inevitably going to end up in the exact same place is bizarre.
Founder Jack Dorsey has abandoned Bluesky citing a lack of continued faith in the project and current CEO Jay Graber has primarily worked with cryptocurrency. My hopes are not high. Besides which, even if they do everything right and gain a huge following, Musk or Zuckerberg will just want to buy them out and our current government will allow them to do that.
Not being literal Nazis is definitely a mark in their favor, but the whole point of this argument in the first place is that free, open source, self hosted federated software is RIGHT HERE. We’re on it RIGHT NOW. With everyone abandoning major platforms because they’re full of Nazis, this is perhaps the single best opportunity we’re ever going to have to retake the internet for ourselves en masse. Which everyone is totally ignoring in favor of hopping onto the next corponet.
I’m not excusing Musk for shit, and I’m not accusing Bluesky of being as bad or worse than Nazis. That’s silly. I’d rather see users move to Bluesky than stay on X. But I’d much rather see them move to Mastodon. Corporations at large, especially social media corps have proven time and again that they can’t be trusted, so… don’t. Take back your own internet. The options are here already.
Possible it’s that. Could just be they hate that general format of twitter/bluesky for social media. I lump them together because I’d never use either. No clue on the actual populaces on them.
You forgot, it’s also not mastodon.
I joined because it lets me use my domain as my username without having to host an instance.
Yeah that’s a really cool feature.
Honestly… Ya, literally any extra steps in signing up or slight bit of confusion is enough to make the average person give up and go back to whatever platform they are comfortable with. I’ve talked to people who dispise twitter but won’t even switch to Bluesky because the extra dot in the user handle is too weird for them.
Yeah honestly they should make cars with one pedal. Two is just way to confusing for the average person.
Conflating ease of operation with ease of sign up. Have you ever tried to read an article online and something pops up and you left the page, even if it wasn’t necessarily trying to get you to log in? That’s the sort of thing they’re talking about.
One-pedal driving is a feature in a number of modern cars.
Wait until I tell you about the cars with three pedals.
Hi I found a 4th pedal on the far left that doesn’t come back up when I press it, and my car makes funny smells now
My bicycle only has two pedals, but the seat smells funny too.
It’s probably a controversial opinion, but you could solve that problem by not sniffing bicycle seats.
Who said it was a problem?
The difference is more like automatic vs manual transmission. If you’ve only ever used automatic, the mere idea of gears to push is enough to scare most people out of learning. It’s the same with servers/instances and social media
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Dementia.
Nah it said it timed out so I hit send again and jerboa sent it twice.
Yeah, thats a very common occurance on reddit because the platform is still held together by duct tape and prayers.
We’re not on reddit…
I know, thats why I mentioned it. Only time I saw it happen here.
Oh okay okay I get you now
Perfection
Mastodon instances keep deactivating my accounts when I don’t post anything for two weeks, so yeah. Bsky it is.
I don’t think that’s standard. I’m on mastodon.social where I haven’t posted in forever and it’s still there
I’ll admit, I just stopped trying after it happened a few times. It doesn’t offer anything worth the headache of selecting an instance. Also when I was trying mastodon.social wasn’t available, I think? Don’t remember any more.
The headache of selecting an instance is why i chose mastodon.social and lemmy.ml. I just join the one made by the developers of the thing