Summary

Elon Musk warned federal employees against leaking information, stating, “if in doubt, they are out,” as he helps Trump implement sweeping government changes.

A Reddit post alleged Musk’s team is using “fingerprinting” tactics to track leakers. Musk, who spent heavily on Trump’s re-election, now leads the Department of Government Efficiency (DOGE), which has controversially seized control of federal payment and personnel systems.

The administration is also encouraging civil servants to resign, prompting lawsuits.

Whistleblower protections may challenge Musk’s crackdown on leaks.

  • @NocturnalMorning
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    It was created off the books. He technically has no authority, so I dont k ow why anybody is listening to anything he says. This is plainly illegal, and congress should be taking action right now. Instead we are sitting on our thumbs watching from the side lines.

    • @UnderpantsWeevil
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      He technically has no authority

      He technically does have authority, because he’s got his team into the IT systems via Trump’s orders.

      Since the federal government basically runs on Microsoft, that means his goons can go into Active Directory and start locking other people out of key government systems. Then he has payroll mark you as “Terminated” in the accounting system, because his people are in that system, too. If you can’t badge into your office, you can’t log on to your computer, you can’t use your phone, and you won’t receive a paycheck, what are you except “fired”?

      • @[email protected]
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        81 month ago

        In Europe we declare ourselves ready to work and are considered to be on paid leave until called upon.

        • @UnderpantsWeevil
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          That works so long as the paychecks keep coming. But also, it works because of the large well-structured unions that populate the European bureaucracy.

          The US has made a point to dismantle public sector unions precisely because bosses don’t like when this happens. We’ve also turned a great deal of the government over to contractors, both to keep public labor divided and to guarantee the rolls as a means of patronage (landing a contractor job means being in good standing politically) and efficient avenue for kickbacks (contractors and their staff financially support the candidates that send them billable work).

          So it’s less a question of “will we show up to work for this administration?” and more a question of "will we get included in this administration’s patronage scheme?

    • @givesomefucks
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      and congress should be taking action right now. Instead we are sitting on our thumbs watching from the side lines.

      You can blame the “victory fund” bankrupting state parties and Dems losing ground in down ballot races over and over again so that the presidential campaign could have a dinner with Clooney.

      Hopefully Ken Martin puts an end to that griff

      • @[email protected]
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        21 month ago

        Ken Martin is the establishment and is not going to change anything about the grift. The DNC is a lost cause.

    • dohpaz42
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      I was not aware of it being a temporary organization. But it was created by executive order, which likely grants musk power to fire.

      • @[email protected]
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        Oh, no. Executive orders, at least according to “the rules”, do not supercede the law. This is all blatantly illegal in many ways.

        Fat lot of good that does, though, considering the other two branches are run by corrupt yes men.

        Also, I don’t think there’s anything saying it’s temporary…?

        • @braindamagebuddy
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          I see people saying this a lot, but as someone unfamiliar, which orders are actually clearly violating existing law? There is the mass firings example, but when I looked it didn’t seem clear which rule was actually broken.

          • @[email protected]
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            11 month ago

            I can’t tell if you’re actually serious or not. Did you even attempt to search? Frankly there’s honestly too many for me to be bothered listing here. Furthermore, if you are actually asking on good faith, there have been numerous news articles posted to Lemmy directly, as well as easily available elsewhere.

            That said, your whole tone almost screams “I’m just asking questions!”, and I have better things to do.

            • @braindamagebuddy
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              Ok, I’m sorry to have upset you.

              My angle here is that it’s difficult to discuss this topic if there is not irrefutable proof that his actions as carried out were directly violating clearly defined legislation.

              If we take the case of reclassifying civil servants, articles I read say that he can do it when “necessary” / “as good administration warrants” which seems like it could leave a lot of wiggle room for him to snake his way out of it. Following that, I don’t see news on whether these people have actually been removed from their jobs or if Trump simply proclaimed something which was not acted upon.

              The number of low quality rage-bait articles makes finding actual information quite difficult for me at least.

              From the tone of your original post, I had thought you might be knowledgeable as to state clearly which laws he had broken, ideally something so clear it would be impossible for a lawyer not to rule against him (barring whatever the presidential immunity exempts him from).

              I wish you well though, and no need to respond here if you don’t want to.

              • @[email protected]
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                Oh, give it a rest.

                Want an irrefutably illegal executive order? How about the one the directly contradicts the Constitution?

                But yes, go “just ask questions” somewhere else please.

      • @NocturnalMorning
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        It was, but it cannot surrept congress’ constitutional authority in holding the governments coin purse. But, then again, if nobody does anything, I guess all bets are off at this point.