Sorry but your take is entirely obtuse and ridiculous. Also, you used the word that just makes me want to dismiss everything after it, but I digress.
This is a country that functions well largely due to well crafted and POLITE diplomacy. They very well understand the “what” of the threat here, but also the nature of “who” is making it.
If anyone is a “cuck”, it’s Trump hands down. Proven time and time again. He throws tantrums like a child, and backs down IMMEDIATELY because that’s all he knows how to do. He’s a doddering old man with dementia, and an enclave of Wormtongue’s pulling the actual strings. Look at what happened with these bullshit tarrifs. Look back in history and see how many times this dipshit embarrasses himself with threats that have NEVER come to fruition.
Canada and Mexico literally replied to Trump as if what they are doing is new in response to his threats. It is not. It literally what they agreed to 6 months ago with Biden. They know all they have to do is ACT like Trump made a big boy move, and keep doing the same thing.
While all of this bullshitting is happening, Denmark, Canada, Mexico, UK, and literally everyone else who Trump keeps threatening are on the phone with each other like High School kids talking about a response if Trump tries something. You now have a bunch of formerly friendly allies against the US n a new coalition.
Trump won’t do shit because he has no concept of how. This is proven. He makes threats he never follows through on to seem tough, and then does nothing. EVERYONE KNOWS THIS.
So while he’s out here chomping at the bit for this and that, we have a newly aligned group of nations taking their time to figure out what they want to do. That’s it. They’ll win this, and I root for them. Trump won’t engage the military, he’ll kick and scream and wine and then blame somebody else for the fallout. That’s literally all he knows how to do.
As far as his attacks on the US, that’s because he is an abuser and an opportunist. Abusers hit the most vulnerable people available, and have no recourse. Opportunists get in and out for an affect before they are found out, like cowards. Rapists are opportunists, for example.
This is a country that functions well largely due to well crafted and POLITE diplomacy. They very well understand the “what” of the threat here, but also the nature of “who” is making it.
And what has “POLITE” diplomacy gotten them? They’re expanding US military presence on the island and are making political policy based on Trump’s demands. How is this anything other than giving Trump exactly what he wants?
If anyone is a “cuck”, it’s Trump hands down. Proven time and time again. He throws tantrums like a child, and backs down IMMEDIATELY because that’s all he knows how to do. He’s a doddering old man with dementia, and an enclave of Wormtongue’s pulling the actual strings. Look at what happened with these bullshit tarrifs. Look back in history and see how many times this dipshit embarrasses himself with threats that have NEVER come to fruition.
Oh, I agree. Trump is a complete cuck. You will never, ever hear me argue otherwise. But that doesn’t mean that Denmark’s PM isn’t also one. I mean we are literally talking about Trump actively insulting Denmark as a country, calling them weak, and saying that they can either sign over Greenland or he’s going to take it by force. And this is how he responds? By basically giving them more territory on the island and enacting pro-Trump political policies? How is that anything other than being a geopolitical cuck?
Canada and Mexico literally replied to Trump as if what they are doing is new in response to his threats. It is not. It literally what they agreed to 6 months ago with Biden. They know all they have to do is ACT like Trump made a big boy move, and keep doing the same thing.
Until Trump starts demanding more than symbolic gestures. Again, check out my links. They openly admit that they are intentionally playing hardball because they can and intend to use their perceived economic strength to leverage more concessions out of Canada. I’ll ask again, what if Trump decides that he wants to make a play for British Columbia the same way he’s making a play for Denmark, and then suddenly decides that he “deserves” it and will take it by force if he has to?
While all of this bullshitting is happening, Denmark, Canada, Mexico, UK, and literally everyone else who Trump keeps threatening are on the phone with each other like High School kids talking about a response if Trump tries something.
Then they need to start actually speaking up because right now, Trump appears to be winning. Symbolic or otherwise, doesn’t matter.
Trump won’t do shit because he has no concept of how. This is proven. He makes threats he never follows through on to seem tough, and then does nothing. EVERYONE KNOWS THIS.
Then they need to start calling him out on it instead of playing the appeasement game.
So while he’s out here chomping at the bit for this and that, we have a newly aligned group of nations taking their time to figure out what they want to do. That’s it. They’ll win this, and I root for them. Trump won’t engage the military, he’ll kick and scream and wine and then blame somebody else for the fallout. That’s literally all he knows how to do.
This is probably correct in the long term. But if this is the plan, they’re doing a pretty poor job so far.
As far as his attacks on the US, that’s because he is an abuser and an opportunist. Abusers hit the most vulnerable people available, and have no recourse. Opportunists get in and out for an affect before they are found out, like cowards. Rapists are opportunists, for example.
Again, you’re not telling me things I don’t already know here. I am in no way defending Trump or his actions, but at the same time these countries need to start playing a lot more hardball because all Trump is doing is using the appeasement that they’re giving him to bolster his ego and build support for more direct action. Remember, appeasement got us from “Greenland is not for sale” to Trump believing that the US has some kind of “right” to it. And support for that idea among the rubes of his base is growing.
I’m not dogging you here, but you’re basically succumbing to “forceful language needs a forceful reaction”. Simply not true.
Sorry, but I completely disagree. We are in this situation in the first place because these countries did not give a forceful response. I’m not saying they need to threaten nukes every time Trump sends out a mean tweet, but for the love of fuck I don’t think sticking to a forceful “Greenland is not for sale” is too much to ask. Trump is pulling more and more shit with more and more countries (Canada, Mexico, Panama, Denmark) because they fucking allow him to.
“Greenland is not for sale under any circumstances, and we will not dignify such a ridiculous idea with any further response.” That’s it. No need to declare WWIII or something. That’s all they needed to stick to and this whole thing would still be considered the demented ramblings of an idiot. But instead of a forceful response, they went the “well, ackshully” route and now we have not only this demented idiot but a growing number of supporters believing that the US suddenly “deserves” Greenland.
At a geopolitical level? Forceful language absolutely needs a forceful response. 100% of the time. This situation is what happens when you don’t give one.
No, these countries are actually intelligent, and are doing more than just shouting back at the absolutely mindless void that is the Trump administration. Stalling for time, figuring out an actual response, and delivering alternatives is a thoughtful process. Yelling back at Trump is just inviting more bullshit which they don’t want to deal with.
Fact of the matter is that the US Military will refuse to start WW3 and alienate the few allies it has left. It’s sandwiched between Canada and Mexico, it’s closest allies which Trump wants to alienate hold the Atlantic cross, and nobody in the Pacific gap will work productively with him to allow the grab of Greenland. If he even starts a military incursion, the US is fucked. He doesn’t know this, but they do.
As Trudeau said “Good luck figuring out who provides US with their most needed materials”.
Stalling for time, figuring out an actual response, and delivering alternatives is a thoughtful process.
Wait a minute. Stalling for time, figuring out an actual response, and delivering alternatives?
Trump is literally threatening to take Greenland by force, and Denmark responds by allowing them to expand the military presence the US already has there? How ridiculously stupid is that? That would be like Zelinsky responding to Russia’s threat of invasion by allowing Putin to park the tanks in Kyiv.
And they are literally enacting pro-Trump policies. I don’t care what the subject matter is, who the fuck allows a foreign country to literally demand and dictate the foreign policy of another?
Canada and Mexico dangling shiny objects to appease trump is a tactic I completely disagree with and I think will backfire in the not-too-distant future, but I can at least see the merit there even if I disagree with it. But what Greenland is doing isn’t some kind of stalling tactic. It’s literally bending the knee. How is that kind of strategy in any way beneficial to Denmark?
The US already has a large base in Greenland and if the US actually sent in marines to conquer Greenland there’s fuck all Greenland could do about it with such short notice. This measure may just make the dumb orange man happy and it gives Denmark time to assemble an actual multilateral response (France is already on board but that’s not enough).
I don’t know why you’d consider getting another country to spend a lot of money in your country to be bending the knee. These US soldiers will have to follow the local laws (or cause a massive disruption) just like those already there and the extended military presence won’t significantly impact the ability for Greenland to resist.
Trump lost the tariff exchange. Canada said “We’ll appoint a border czar sure”, Mexico got a lot of border funding they wanted anyways… and Greenland is in a pretty impossible situation but managed to stall any disaster.
You’re confusing all kinds of different things here. The original angle was Greenland. They are stalling to find out who will respond if the US tries an incursion. It’s that simple. It shuts Trump up, and they know he won’t do anything without starting a war.
Sorry but your take is entirely obtuse and ridiculous. Also, you used the word that just makes me want to dismiss everything after it, but I digress.
So while he’s out here chomping at the bit for this and that, we have a newly aligned group of nations taking their time to figure out what they want to do. That’s it. They’ll win this, and I root for them. Trump won’t engage the military, he’ll kick and scream and wine and then blame somebody else for the fallout. That’s literally all he knows how to do.
As far as his attacks on the US, that’s because he is an abuser and an opportunist. Abusers hit the most vulnerable people available, and have no recourse. Opportunists get in and out for an affect before they are found out, like cowards. Rapists are opportunists, for example.
And what has “POLITE” diplomacy gotten them? They’re expanding US military presence on the island and are making political policy based on Trump’s demands. How is this anything other than giving Trump exactly what he wants?
Oh, I agree. Trump is a complete cuck. You will never, ever hear me argue otherwise. But that doesn’t mean that Denmark’s PM isn’t also one. I mean we are literally talking about Trump actively insulting Denmark as a country, calling them weak, and saying that they can either sign over Greenland or he’s going to take it by force. And this is how he responds? By basically giving them more territory on the island and enacting pro-Trump political policies? How is that anything other than being a geopolitical cuck?
Until Trump starts demanding more than symbolic gestures. Again, check out my links. They openly admit that they are intentionally playing hardball because they can and intend to use their perceived economic strength to leverage more concessions out of Canada. I’ll ask again, what if Trump decides that he wants to make a play for British Columbia the same way he’s making a play for Denmark, and then suddenly decides that he “deserves” it and will take it by force if he has to?
Then they need to start actually speaking up because right now, Trump appears to be winning. Symbolic or otherwise, doesn’t matter.
Then they need to start calling him out on it instead of playing the appeasement game.
This is probably correct in the long term. But if this is the plan, they’re doing a pretty poor job so far.
Again, you’re not telling me things I don’t already know here. I am in no way defending Trump or his actions, but at the same time these countries need to start playing a lot more hardball because all Trump is doing is using the appeasement that they’re giving him to bolster his ego and build support for more direct action. Remember, appeasement got us from “Greenland is not for sale” to Trump believing that the US has some kind of “right” to it. And support for that idea among the rubes of his base is growing.
I’m not dogging you here, but you’re basically succumbing to “forceful language needs a forceful reaction”. Simply not true.
The US will get left behind while this lazy piece of shit just keeps talking and doing nothing. That’s it.
Sorry, but I completely disagree. We are in this situation in the first place because these countries did not give a forceful response. I’m not saying they need to threaten nukes every time Trump sends out a mean tweet, but for the love of fuck I don’t think sticking to a forceful “Greenland is not for sale” is too much to ask. Trump is pulling more and more shit with more and more countries (Canada, Mexico, Panama, Denmark) because they fucking allow him to.
“Greenland is not for sale under any circumstances, and we will not dignify such a ridiculous idea with any further response.” That’s it. No need to declare WWIII or something. That’s all they needed to stick to and this whole thing would still be considered the demented ramblings of an idiot. But instead of a forceful response, they went the “well, ackshully” route and now we have not only this demented idiot but a growing number of supporters believing that the US suddenly “deserves” Greenland.
At a geopolitical level? Forceful language absolutely needs a forceful response. 100% of the time. This situation is what happens when you don’t give one.
No, these countries are actually intelligent, and are doing more than just shouting back at the absolutely mindless void that is the Trump administration. Stalling for time, figuring out an actual response, and delivering alternatives is a thoughtful process. Yelling back at Trump is just inviting more bullshit which they don’t want to deal with.
Fact of the matter is that the US Military will refuse to start WW3 and alienate the few allies it has left. It’s sandwiched between Canada and Mexico, it’s closest allies which Trump wants to alienate hold the Atlantic cross, and nobody in the Pacific gap will work productively with him to allow the grab of Greenland. If he even starts a military incursion, the US is fucked. He doesn’t know this, but they do.
As Trudeau said “Good luck figuring out who provides US with their most needed materials”.
Chill the fuck out.
Wait a minute. Stalling for time, figuring out an actual response, and delivering alternatives?
Trump is literally threatening to take Greenland by force, and Denmark responds by allowing them to expand the military presence the US already has there? How ridiculously stupid is that? That would be like Zelinsky responding to Russia’s threat of invasion by allowing Putin to park the tanks in Kyiv.
And they are literally enacting pro-Trump policies. I don’t care what the subject matter is, who the fuck allows a foreign country to literally demand and dictate the foreign policy of another?
Canada and Mexico dangling shiny objects to appease trump is a tactic I completely disagree with and I think will backfire in the not-too-distant future, but I can at least see the merit there even if I disagree with it. But what Greenland is doing isn’t some kind of stalling tactic. It’s literally bending the knee. How is that kind of strategy in any way beneficial to Denmark?
The US already has a large base in Greenland and if the US actually sent in marines to conquer Greenland there’s fuck all Greenland could do about it with such short notice. This measure may just make the dumb orange man happy and it gives Denmark time to assemble an actual multilateral response (France is already on board but that’s not enough).
I don’t know why you’d consider getting another country to spend a lot of money in your country to be bending the knee. These US soldiers will have to follow the local laws (or cause a massive disruption) just like those already there and the extended military presence won’t significantly impact the ability for Greenland to resist.
Trump lost the tariff exchange. Canada said “We’ll appoint a border czar sure”, Mexico got a lot of border funding they wanted anyways… and Greenland is in a pretty impossible situation but managed to stall any disaster.
You’re confusing all kinds of different things here. The original angle was Greenland. They are stalling to find out who will respond if the US tries an incursion. It’s that simple. It shuts Trump up, and they know he won’t do anything without starting a war.