Israeli officials suggested that the increased military aid was part of a deal to get Netanyahu to agree to the Gaza ceasefire deal. Trump’s envoy for the Middle East, Steve Witkoff, has said he’s pushing for the full implementation of the agreement, but the ceasefire is very fragile as Netanyahu doesn’t want to implement the second phase.
People who refused to vote for Harris because of her stance on Israel - THIS IS WHAT YOU WANTED!
she did nothing but indicate her intentions to do the exact same thing, just as biden before her
No one forced the democrats to do this:
Just wait until you heat what Trump just said. That graph but for trumps real estate empire in "Israel "
No one stopped them either. Dems and Repub leaders both want this
Fuck off you disgusting piece of shit. Imagine being such a dumb fucking cunt you attempt to scold random voters for the Democrats decision to support genocide and claim it’s their fault somehow.
Hey, dipshit, who kept signing off on arms shipments the past fucking year? Hey dipshit, who declared a redline in Rafah only for nothing to happen? Who gave a deadline of 30 days for aid to increase, nothing improved, then they just meekly announced they weren’t doing shit as punishment?
Personal attacks aside, yes it is the fault of voters for Trump getting into office. That’s how elections work.
Democrats wouldn’t stop the war. Republicans wouldn’t stop the war. It was irrelevant to the choice of who to elect.
If enough people voted, the Democrats would have given people free health care, stopped financing wars, torture and genocide, improve public transit, boost public education, and lowered the cost of groceries. If only enough people voted for the Democrats, they could be in power and bring change. They just need a super majority to install a welfare state and turn into pacifists. Of course!
I get your sarcasm, but let’s be clear - Dems have had a supermajority 3 times in the past 25 years, and we got none of this shit. They’re full of crap when it comes to fulfilling campaign promises. Wish we could say the same for republicans.
The Democrats had a filibuster proof trifecta for 73 days in 2009 and they passed Obamacare. Republicans spent the next decade trying to destroy it. I’m not saying Dems would do all of what you said, but when they are given the chance they move things in the right direction.
What I want is to replace First-past-the-post voting with STAR voting.
Imagine all the time you’d save from not having to go to every single thread to blame people literally unrepresented in government for the democrats failures.
Videos on Electoral Reform
First Past The Post voting (What most states use now)
Videos on alternative electoral systems we can try out.
STAR voting
Alternative vote
Ranked Choice voting
Range Voting
Single Transferable Vote
Mixed Member Proportional representation
And you would only be able to pass voting reform through democrats.
Well it’s certainly an improvement over the eight billion the Dems just sent.
Trump has 4 years to catch up. He has to fund his plan to remove all Gazans.
Maybe. But there’s a big difference between what Trump might do in the future and what the Democrats have already actually done for real.
Yes this is a lot less than Biden sent.
He’s got 4 years to catch up. After all he has to fund the removal of all Gazans he proposed.
I think they pretty clearly wanted the Democratic party to stop arming Israel, which did not happen, and probably wouldn’t have happened if they were elected, either, given they made no promises on it and gave no real indications of course correction.
This is like if the guy on watch duty on the Titanic spent a year screaming about how they’re heading directly for an iceberg, the captain did nothing, and then got mad at the guy on watch when the iceberg sank the ship.
It’s almost like nothing would change no matter who won and Israel was just a political pawn to help Trump win.
Wow, I can’t believe people weren’t more motivated to vote for “nothing will change no matter who wins.” Truly nobody could have foreseen and warned of this.
Just curious, if Kamala did the same arms transfer shortly after getting elected; how would you respond or what would you do?
Would you assure others that she is working tirelessly on a ceasefire despite her vow to always give them the ability to defend themselves?
As I have said before Israel was irrelevant to the election as neither candidate was going to act differently. It was only used as a weapon by conservatives to strip votes from Harris.
You mean it was a lay up for Harris she refused to capitalize on because she personally received too much money in bribes.
Or maybe she didn’t have a simple black and white opinion on a very nuanced situation and recognized that pulling support for Israel would only lose the US it’s seat at the negotiating table.
If genocide isn’t negotiable for your party, maybe you should find a new one.
I hate it, but it’s a two party system. You have to pick one.
The people who told Democrats for months to change position were Democrats and people who worked in the democratic party, some of whom did so for decades.
https://www.npr.org/2024/08/24/nx-s1-5086924/the-dnc-didnt-let-a-palestinian-american-speak-the-uncommitted-movement-took-note
https://www.aljazeera.com/news/2024/8/17/uncommitted-delegates-bring-gaza-war-message-to-democratic-convention
What if?
https://apnews.com/article/kamala-harris-gaza-israel-netanyahu-dad5fd3715f35e8311bd4039aeff8173
We only know that Bibi wanted trump to win.
I’m asking out of genuine curiosity, what are they doing besides shaming others? What’s done is done - we are here now.
If they had constructive or productive intentions it could apply to the current moment even with Trump in office.
There was no distinction between the candidates on this issue. Biden just sent $8 billion in arms less than a month ago. There were plenty differences between candidates, but this is not one.
Agreed. It was always just a way to manipulate democratic voters.
It was a hill Biden & the democrats didn’t need to die on. The last year in Gaza was inexcusable and gaslighting potential voters was embarrassing. Shame on the democrats for making genocide a wedge issue
Shame on anyone that thinks it matters compared to handing a fascist the reigns of power.