Israeli officials suggested that the increased military aid was part of a deal to get Netanyahu to agree to the Gaza ceasefire deal. Trump’s envoy for the Middle East, Steve Witkoff, has said he’s pushing for the full implementation of the agreement, but the ceasefire is very fragile as Netanyahu doesn’t want to implement the second phase.

  • @Frank_weens
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    I thought musk controls the purse. Why is he even pretending to involve Congress at this point?

  • @ChonkyOwlbear
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    People who refused to vote for Harris because of her stance on Israel - THIS IS WHAT YOU WANTED!

      • @ChonkyOwlbear
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        No one stopped them either. Dems and Repub leaders both want this

      • @[email protected]
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        Just wait until you heat what Trump just said. That graph but for trumps real estate empire in "Israel "

        • @[email protected]
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          As ever, BlueMAGA liberals care more about what crimes Trump hasn’t committed than the ones Democrats have.

          • @[email protected]
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            Don’t even get a day in what happened as I’m not American. The whole US electoral system is broken and needs rebuilding

              • @[email protected]
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                Oh wait I’m in ML. Good luck changing the world because you guys have done such a good job so far

                • @[email protected]
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                  I’ll admit, you neoliberals have definitely done a better job changing the world than us. You’ve changed it to be much worse, of course, but you have changed it.

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      she did nothing but indicate her intentions to do the exact same thing, just as biden before her

      • @ChonkyOwlbear
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        You still haven’t learned the lesson. The war in Gaza is happening regardless of who is president. It was irrelevant to the decision of who to vote for. It was always just a distraction to voters.

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      If enough people voted, the Democrats would have given people free health care, stopped financing wars, torture and genocide, improve public transit, boost public education, and lowered the cost of groceries. If only enough people voted for the Democrats, they could be in power and bring change. They just need a super majority to install a welfare state and turn into pacifists. Of course!

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        I get your sarcasm, but let’s be clear - Dems have had a supermajority 3 times in the past 25 years, and we got none of this shit. They’re full of crap when it comes to fulfilling campaign promises. Wish we could say the same for republicans.

      • @ChonkyOwlbear
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        The Democrats had a filibuster proof trifecta for 73 days in 2009 and they passed Obamacare. Republicans spent the next decade trying to destroy it. I’m not saying Dems would do all of what you said, but when they are given the chance they move things in the right direction.

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        Trump has 4 years to catch up. He has to fund his plan to remove all Gazans.

        • @[email protected]
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          Maybe. But there’s a big difference between what Trump might do in the future and what the Democrats have already actually done for real.

          • @ChonkyOwlbear
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            That what Trump will do will be worse is a certainty for anyone who paid attention the last time he was in office.

            • @[email protected]
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              All these BlueMAGA liberals who couldn’t even predict that they were going to lose the election now suddenly acting like they have Dune style prescient super powers.

    • @[email protected]
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      What I want is to replace First-past-the-post voting with STAR voting.

      Imagine all the time you’d save from not having to go to every single thread to blame people literally unrepresented in government for the democrats failures.

      Videos on Electoral Reform

      First Past The Post voting (What most states use now)

      Videos on alternative electoral systems we can try out.

      STAR voting

      Alternative vote

      Ranked Choice voting

      Range Voting

      Single Transferable Vote

      Mixed Member Proportional representation

      • @ChonkyOwlbear
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        And you would only be able to pass voting reform through democrats.

    • @[email protected]
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      Fuck off you disgusting piece of shit. Imagine being such a dumb fucking cunt you attempt to scold random voters for the Democrats decision to support genocide and claim it’s their fault somehow.

      Hey, dipshit, who kept signing off on arms shipments the past fucking year? Hey dipshit, who declared a redline in Rafah only for nothing to happen? Who gave a deadline of 30 days for aid to increase, nothing improved, then they just meekly announced they weren’t doing shit as punishment?

      • @ChonkyOwlbear
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        Personal attacks aside, yes it is the fault of voters for Trump getting into office. That’s how elections work.

        Democrats wouldn’t stop the war. Republicans wouldn’t stop the war. It was irrelevant to the choice of who to elect.

      • @ChonkyOwlbear
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        He’s got 4 years to catch up. After all he has to fund the removal of all Gazans he proposed.

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      I think they pretty clearly wanted the Democratic party to stop arming Israel, which did not happen, and probably wouldn’t have happened if they were elected, either, given they made no promises on it and gave no real indications of course correction.

      This is like if the guy on watch duty on the Titanic spent a year screaming about how they’re heading directly for an iceberg, the captain did nothing, and then got mad at the guy on watch when the iceberg sank the ship.

      • @ChonkyOwlbear
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        It’s almost like nothing would change no matter who won and Israel was just a political pawn to help Trump win.

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          Wow, I can’t believe people weren’t more motivated to vote for “nothing will change no matter who wins.” Truly nobody could have foreseen and warned of this.

          • @ChonkyOwlbear
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            It’s almost like there is more than one factor to consider when picking a president!

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      Just curious, if Kamala did the same arms transfer shortly after getting elected; how would you respond or what would you do?

      Would you assure others that she is working tirelessly on a ceasefire despite her vow to always give them the ability to defend themselves?

      • @ChonkyOwlbear
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        As I have said before Israel was irrelevant to the election as neither candidate was going to act differently. It was only used as a weapon by conservatives to strip votes from Harris.

        • @[email protected]
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          You mean it was a lay up for Harris she refused to capitalize on because she personally received too much money in bribes.

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            Or maybe she didn’t have a simple black and white opinion on a very nuanced situation and recognized that pulling support for Israel would only lose the US it’s seat at the negotiating table.

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              Given multiple experts have stated Israel cannot continue it’s genocide without us support, this is incorrect. The US holds all of the cards.

        • Dessalines
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          If genocide isn’t negotiable for your party, maybe you should find a new one.

          • @ChonkyOwlbear
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            I hate it, but it’s a two party system. You have to pick one.

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              In that case, if genocide is a non-negotiable certainty of American policy, then the lesser evil choice is whichever party will collapse the USA fastest.

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                Nice of you to be so willing to sacrifice all the lives that such a collapse would cost

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          The people who told Democrats for months to change position were Democrats and people who worked in the democratic party, some of whom did so for decades.

          https://www.npr.org/2024/08/24/nx-s1-5086924/the-dnc-didnt-let-a-palestinian-american-speak-the-uncommitted-movement-took-note

          June Rose, the sole “uncommitted” delegate from Rhode Island, also said it was incorrect to assume the delegation members come from the fringes of the Democratic Party.

          “We are Democratic professionals. I’m the chief of staff of the Providence City Council. I’ve made my career helping to elect Democrats and defeat Republicans who pose incredible risk to the future of our country,” the 29-year-old told Al Jazeera.

          “But my relationship with the party will never supersede my relationship with my values, and in this case, my values and my party are in direct conflict.”

          Rose named Eileen Abu Odeh, a toddler killed with her family in an Israeli air raid in Gaza, during the roll call. They explained the delegation’s presence at the Democratic National Convention can serve as a gut check for the party, as it prepares to chart a course forward on foreign policy.

          “Our party cannot just make this week a celebration, and I think that that’s the tone that many in our party want to take,” Rose said. “But that celebration would be on the graves of innocent children who’ve been slaughtered.”

          https://www.aljazeera.com/news/2024/8/17/uncommitted-delegates-bring-gaza-war-message-to-democratic-convention

          • @ChonkyOwlbear
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            Well now you can tell Republicans to change their position. I’m sure they will listen rather than shoot you with rubber bullets.

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          I’m asking out of genuine curiosity, what are they doing besides shaming others? What’s done is done - we are here now.

          If they had constructive or productive intentions it could apply to the current moment even with Trump in office.

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      There was no distinction between the candidates on this issue. Biden just sent $8 billion in arms less than a month ago. There were plenty differences between candidates, but this is not one.

      • @ChonkyOwlbear
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        Agreed. It was always just a way to manipulate democratic voters.

        • @distantsounds
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          It was a hill Biden & the democrats didn’t need to die on. The last year in Gaza was inexcusable and gaslighting potential voters was embarrassing. Shame on the democrats for making genocide a wedge issue

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            Shame on anyone that thinks it matters compared to handing a fascist the reigns of power.

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              Look I voted dem, my state is still blue & I can for once in my life say I’m proud of my governor. Biden was complicit in genocide and it was one of many major factors that cost the election. Remember Biden could have simply enforced the Leahy Act and stop providing mutinous at any point. Everyone could see the war crimes and bs like temp piers. He could have kept his promise and only run one term, allow for an engaging democratic primary and a graceful exit. BUT here we are

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                I’m sure the foreigners Trump puts into the concentration camps he is building will thank you for thinking of them.

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                  As ever, the future crimes you’re imagining Trump committing matter more to you than the crimes democracts already committed.

                  Spare me, you’ve already said that genocide doesn’t matter compared to what colour of fascist is running the USA, don’t pretend you care about foreigners being put in camps beyond being a vector to crow about orange man bad.

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    Ah yes, giving Netanyahu even more bombs is totally the right way to bring about a ceasefire and definitely won’t just lead to more Palestinians getting blown up.