Trump said he believes the Palestinians would be better off moving to neighboring Egypt or Jordan. A spokesman for Hamas called Trump's remarks "a recipe for creating chaos."
It was never about your vote. It was about the impact of a one-sided message on the votes of others.
Criticism of Biden’s handling of Gaza was completely fair. That topic had no place in discussing the election unless fairly compared to the alternative we see here.
Trump won with 1% of the vote.
35% of registered, eligible voters stayed home. If 1% of those that stayed home would have voted we would be in a different world right now.
Protest voters are absolutely to blame for this.
I really thought everyone would have learned about the electoral college by now, but the important thing is making sure people understand our system moving forward.
Every single nonvoter in Cali could have held their nose and voted D, it wouldn’t have changed the result at all
If you actually want to look at the numbers of who stayed home in 2024 after voting in 2020 then those demographics were the older white men/women and hispanic men. Probably because both those groups have a harder time stomaching a woman with the exact same policies
The people protesting the Zionists’ war were college students and under 30s, who voted the exact same they always do.
This election was an existential threat to democracy. Anyone who was able to vote and didn’t vote for Harris, the opposition candidate, is to blame. The Democrats who stayed home because of fucking Gaza even moreso. We Harris voters knew this shit would happen because we pay attention. Anyone who voted for trump to send a message needs to do the same. There was 0 chance a trump presidency would turn out well for the Palestinians in Gaza.
He’s a stupid fucking clown, and so are all these people blaming people who are anti genocide for a genocide both the democrats and republicans have been enabling and perpetuating. It’s fucking bonkers to see.
It’s just so disappointing watching “moderates” side with literal trump supporters and falling for propaganda that makes them attack the very people they need for the Dem party to win elections.
The left can win without the middle, that’s how Obama got elected to both his terms, but the middle can’t win without the left.
All the middle shitting on the left does is help Republicans. But they just won’t stop doing it. They’d honestly rather have a Republican over a progressive.
Ken Martin wasn’t my first pick, but I’m still hopeful he’ll steer the party in the right direction. Shits too important not to.
And that’s just it right there. Libs don’t understand it and would rather attack the left than try to work together with them. And then they’ll try to blame fascism on the left(?!?) it’s so fucking stupid and tiresome.
Just so ya know, @Breadsmasher mods a sub called the_Donald (which I assume is what you’re talking about) that is dedicated to documenting trumps crimes. NOT a pro-trump sub.
I highly recommend clicking through when you find something like that, often it’s a terrible sub but there’s also times when it’s not what you’d expect. As for the other sub, that’s called lemmyDrama, which is just about lemmy drama, like how r/subredditdrama on reddit is about drama. So I wouldn’t call that trolling. But that might just be my opinion on what trolling is.
That would make sense, if they didn’t seem to spend an inordinate amount of time accusing people of not voting because they talk about what the party could do better, and “joking” about genocide.
I took a look at their first page of post history and didn’t have to dig any deeper to block them.
I don’t think I’d have found anything constructive if I scrolled deeper.
I mean, do you honestly think anyone watched the last three elections and think the best path forward is attacking the left?
Even if they’re being genuine, it’s a terrible strategy to get Dems back in power.
So whether it’s intentional or not doesn’t really matter. They’re actively hurting the party with every comment they make.
“Both sides are bad, so I refuse to vote for either”
“Democrats need to earn my vote”
"Well, yeah, Trump is definitely bad. I don’t want Trump. But I demand a pony and a blowjob. If the Democrats want my vote, they’re going to have to do more than just stop Trump from killing all the ponies. "
You should be calling return2ozma and TokenBoomer too. The ‘I’m not voting for Trump’s opponent, but I’m gonna complain about the consequences’, crowd.
I’m sure the 100k people who use Lemmy swayed the millions of voters the Dems needed to defeat fascism… for another 4 years… until the next manufactured choice between “corporate whore lite” and “yet another fascist”.
@[email protected] did biden/harris advocate for palestinians to leave gaza
I hate how horribly accurate that meme is.
If it makes you feel any better, most of the people they’re accusing voted D just like they always do…
It was never about your vote. It was about the impact of a one-sided message on the votes of others.
Criticism of Biden’s handling of Gaza was completely fair. That topic had no place in discussing the election unless fairly compared to the alternative we see here.
Protest voters did not meaningfully impact the election
Trump won with 1% of the vote.
35% of registered, eligible voters stayed home. If 1% of those that stayed home would have voted we would be in a different world right now.
Protest voters are absolutely to blame for this.
https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/United_States_Electoral_College
Its not as simple as you’d like it to be.
I really thought everyone would have learned about the electoral college by now, but the important thing is making sure people understand our system moving forward.
Every single nonvoter in Cali could have held their nose and voted D, it wouldn’t have changed the result at all
If you actually want to look at the numbers of who stayed home in 2024 after voting in 2020 then those demographics were the older white men/women and hispanic men. Probably because both those groups have a harder time stomaching a woman with the exact same policies
The people protesting the Zionists’ war were college students and under 30s, who voted the exact same they always do.
Non-voters sure as shit did impact the election.
Cool less than half the voting age population votes in the US.
And it has always been like this
So whining about the people who never vote and will never vote isn’t helpful
This election was an existential threat to democracy. Anyone who was able to vote and didn’t vote for Harris, the opposition candidate, is to blame. The Democrats who stayed home because of fucking Gaza even moreso. We Harris voters knew this shit would happen because we pay attention. Anyone who voted for trump to send a message needs to do the same. There was 0 chance a trump presidency would turn out well for the Palestinians in Gaza.
Keep telling yourself that I’m sure it will make things turn out different next time.
Meanwhile I’ve been waiting for young people to actually vote since I was 18.
Waiting on poor people to vote in their own self interests.
Still waiting.
Meanwhile you’re being tricked by propaganda into hating poor and young people.
Did you want to show me an example of you treating an ongoing genocide as a joke like a trump supporter would?
Edit:
Nevermind, you literally mod a trump sub and a sub about trolling, no wonder you act like a trump supporter
He’s a stupid fucking clown, and so are all these people blaming people who are anti genocide for a genocide both the democrats and republicans have been enabling and perpetuating. It’s fucking bonkers to see.
It’s just so disappointing watching “moderates” side with literal trump supporters and falling for propaganda that makes them attack the very people they need for the Dem party to win elections.
The left can win without the middle, that’s how Obama got elected to both his terms, but the middle can’t win without the left.
All the middle shitting on the left does is help Republicans. But they just won’t stop doing it. They’d honestly rather have a Republican over a progressive.
Ken Martin wasn’t my first pick, but I’m still hopeful he’ll steer the party in the right direction. Shits too important not to.
And that’s just it right there. Libs don’t understand it and would rather attack the left than try to work together with them. And then they’ll try to blame fascism on the left(?!?) it’s so fucking stupid and tiresome.
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Just so ya know, @Breadsmasher mods a sub called the_Donald (which I assume is what you’re talking about) that is dedicated to documenting trumps crimes. NOT a pro-trump sub.
I highly recommend clicking through when you find something like that, often it’s a terrible sub but there’s also times when it’s not what you’d expect. As for the other sub, that’s called lemmyDrama, which is just about lemmy drama, like how r/subredditdrama on reddit is about drama. So I wouldn’t call that trolling. But that might just be my opinion on what trolling is.
exactly. fuck trump. he is destroying america. the little that remains
That would make sense, if they didn’t seem to spend an inordinate amount of time accusing people of not voting because they talk about what the party could do better, and “joking” about genocide.
I took a look at their first page of post history and didn’t have to dig any deeper to block them.
I don’t think I’d have found anything constructive if I scrolled deeper.
I mean, do you honestly think anyone watched the last three elections and think the best path forward is attacking the left?
Even if they’re being genuine, it’s a terrible strategy to get Dems back in power.
So whether it’s intentional or not doesn’t really matter. They’re actively hurting the party with every comment they make.
“Genocide can’t get worse”
“Both sides are bad, so I refuse to vote for either”
“Democrats need to earn my vote”
"Well, yeah, Trump is definitely bad. I don’t want Trump. But I demand a pony and a blowjob. If the Democrats want my vote, they’re going to have to do more than just stop Trump from killing all the ponies. "
both side are bought and paid for by the oligarchs
damn right a public leader needs to earn votes otherwise we get more Bidens and Trumps that think galas with celebs will do it
Unfortunately teaching them that lesson means now we’ll have no more Palestine.
Unfortunately there will be no more Palestine and democrats will refuse to learn.
They got paid. Their one policy is still being implemented.
There are factions among the oligarchs. Or are you saying both sides are exactly the same?
Specifically:
https://lemmus.org/comment/8655262
There are degrees of genocide, as you can see very plainly by just reading the news.
You should be calling return2ozma and TokenBoomer too. The ‘I’m not voting for Trump’s opponent, but I’m gonna complain about the consequences’, crowd.
theres a lot of shills
Dude singlehandedly saved Gaza.
I’m sure the 100k people who use Lemmy swayed the millions of voters the Dems needed to defeat fascism… for another 4 years… until the next manufactured choice between “corporate whore lite” and “yet another fascist”.
Congrats on saving Gaza.